Cheap Cigars, TallGrass, Bill and BMW's

[Bradradical]

This exact conversation has taken place before: several people say they don’t understand why TallGrass is no longer participating in the discussion forum on 14’ers.com.

They are missing a great deal of information.

The venerable founder/owner/administrator of this incredible FREE website, Bill M., is not going to divulge the details. But, as stated before, anyone that thinks he would lock someone out of their account without a valid reason vastly underestimates him.

I’m not going to divulge all of the information I have either, but feel compelled to point out that some people are clearly experiencing some memory loss: does Scott P. not remember starting a thread titled- Can We Moderate Or Get Rid of TallGrass?

And consider the following: TallGrass sometimes posted reasonable advice in a normal fashion, but had then become increasingly obsessive about dominating most forum threads as an obnoxious know-it-all and an internet bully, often labeling someone a TROLL just for disagreeing with him. Being likable in person does not excuse this behavior.

Several people, including me, doggedly tried to keep him in check, but this only made things messier, and eventually he started posting under alternative UserNames such as PlayGneiss, ZoeSaldana, BillDeDuece, (and at least one more that I can’t recall).

But my personal feud with him is much more complicated than simply annoyance at his forum posts. I consider him a shady character. I bet not even Geo, his most loyal defender, knows his name (even his first name), nor his occupation, nor his reason for avoiding being photographed.

Sorry so many words- signing off now, forever this time, really. Goodbye, beautiful hiker/climber people!
-Brad

[Scott P]

I’m not going to divulge all of the information I have either, but feel compelled to point out that some people are clearly experiencing some memory loss: does Scott P. not remember starting a thread titled- Can We Moderate Or Get Rid of TallGrass?

No, I definitely remember that and many other tiffs too. That's why I said here in this thread that I didn't always get along with him on the forum, but thought he was nice in person after meeting him at the gatherings. I don't hold anything personally against him even if I wished he'd be banned or moderated in the past. It's water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned.

Still, I'm not sure why people are so obsessed with bringing him up in new threads. If he wants to come back and if Bill wants him back, that's their decision.

He must follow the forums in some way if he shows up at the gatherings. I haven't heard any negative things happen with him showing up.

[Istoodupthere]

Never met the guy and I’ve never seen any of his posts. He sure lives rent free in many of your heads. From an outsider’s point of view, this thread is kind of embarrassing and should probably end

[Ed_Groves]

I don't know Tallgrass, but Bill seems to be one of the most even-handed moderators I've ever experienced. He lets a lot of things slide. If he banned someone I suspect there was a good reason. And out of respect, it is a good idea to forgo revealing why people are banned.

[HikesInGeologicTime]

This exact conversation has taken place before: several people say they don’t understand why TallGrass is no longer participating in the discussion forum on 14’ers.com.

They are missing a great deal of information.

The venerable founder/owner/administrator of this incredible FREE website, Bill M., is not going to divulge the details. But, as stated before, anyone that thinks he would lock someone out of their account without a valid reason vastly underestimates him.

I’m not going to divulge all of the information I have either, but feel compelled to point out that some people are clearly experiencing some memory loss: does Scott P. not remember starting a thread titled- Can We Moderate Or Get Rid of TallGrass?

And consider the following: TallGrass sometimes posted reasonable advice in a normal fashion, but had then become increasingly obsessive about dominating most forum threads as an obnoxious know-it-all and an internet bully, often labeling someone a TROLL just for disagreeing with him. Being likable in person does not excuse this behavior.

Several people, including me, doggedly tried to keep him in check, but this only made things messier, and eventually he started posting under alternative UserNames such as PlayGneiss, ZoeSaldana, BillDeDuece, (and at least one more that I can’t recall).

But my personal feud with him is much more complicated than simply annoyance at his forum posts. I consider him a shady character. I bet not even Geo, his most loyal defender, knows his name (even his first name), nor his occupation, nor his reason for avoiding being photographed.

I fully admit there are people I flat-out cannot stand, sometimes to the point where, if I hear about them shuffling off this mortal coil, my reaction is, "Good, more oxygen for the rest of us." But since thinking about those people typically does nothing useful for my mental health, I try really hard to avoid it. I certainly don't go lurking in corners of the internet where their (screen)names might come up once every few years or so, waiting for such an occasion apparently as momentous as a total eclipse or a live viewing of Halley's Comet to vent some evidently longstanding accumulated spleen when it does so. In fact, I'd say it's kinda reminiscent, in my mind anyway, of my neighbor's dog barking its head off until it was practically frothing at the mouth when a resident wearing clothes that sorta resemble a postal worker's uniform had the utter gall to enter the building, except that even the dog eventually learned to settle down.

Sorry so many words- signing off now, forever this time, really. Goodbye, beautiful hiker/climber people!
-Brad

Well, maybe, what, seventh? eighth? time's the charm. But if not, I can PM you a list of free mental health resources throughout the state of Colorado, if that's where you're located.

[pvnisher]

But my personal feud with him is much more complicated than simply annoyance at his forum posts. I consider him a shady character. I bet not even Geo, his most loyal defender, knows his name (even his first name), nor his occupation, nor his reason for avoiding being photographed.

Idgaf about his name, and actually didn't know he was the playgneiss guy always PMing me.

But I do want to know his occupation and why he avoids being photographed.

[BillMiddlebrook]

Driving to work I wondered if TallGrass traded his bike for an auto. After inquiring, Osprey and another forum member said I had it all wrong. That this was Bill's car!
Happy to see Bill still thinks fondly of TallGrass.

Fake news.
I'm not a vanity plate kind of guy, and I don't troll on the internet.