Posted By: angry
Info: Mostly dry. The lower portion of road is the worst with deep ruts. Subaruable. One small drift right below th (approximately 400ft from gate) only adds an extra couple minutes of walking.

Posted By: Danger_D
Info: Snowfree all the way. Getting to the "lower" trailhead at 3.2 miles was harder than expected. My RAV-4 handled it fine, but a normal sedan won’t make it. From the lower trailhead to the gate was slightly harder, and I gently scraped twice. Maybe not a beginner 4WD trailhead. Lots of camping on the road up the the lower trailhead (after the private land) but it filled up insanely fast. Only 2 marginal campsites on the road up to the gate. Right at the gate is a big field you could camp in, but its sloping quite bit

Posted By: Jay521
Info: Clear and dry all the way.

Posted By: cdgibbons
Info: I found this to be one of the more difficult 2WD roads. I parked at the 2WD trailhead; I have AWD and about 6" of clearance and would have been unhappy with much less. All of the avy debris has been cleared from both the 2WD and 4WD sections.

Posted By: Dan_Suitor
Info: I moved the one tree that was in the road .25 miles from the TH. Now it is clear to the gate. Still a rough ride though.

Posted By: texag11
Info: Made it up in a Subaru Outback. There’s a couple of tight sections and you have to cross over some downed trees.

Posted By: 9patrickmurphy
Info: Got within 0.44 miles of the gate. It looks like someone’s been slowly chipping away at the debris with a chainsaw, might be open all the way in a few weeks. Don’t be deterred though, it took me 10 minutes to walk to it from where I parked and the hike is super worth it.

Posted By: tauma
Info: The upper trailhead is cut off by avalanche debris about 0.25 from the lower trailhead.

In brief plan for an 8 mile round trip to Grizzly not 6.

You can park easily opposite the closure which is 0.75 miles from the TH gate.

Posted By: jesditoro
Info: We were able to reach just below the 2nd switchback on the 4WD portion of the road (lifted Toyota Tundra). As a previous report has stated, avi debri has made most of the 1.1 miles of 4WD road impassable. We parked and slept just below the avi debri covering the 4WD road (just below the 2nd switchback) and summitted Grizzly Peak A the morning of 7/21/19. When we were returning to our car that morning there was a man with a chainsaw chopping up some of the trees in the avi debri that was covering the road. I imagine it will take a decent amount of time before the 4WD trailhead is fully accessible due to the sheer number of trees and deep snowfields that are scattered across the road...

Posted By: DanielL
Info: Drove up in a 2007 rav4 to the lower TH which is the junction of FR 391 and 394, around 10,800 or so. Spring avalanches have ripped up the road a bit along FR 391, but debris has been cleared. Some big potholes, rocks and ruts along the 391, but saw plenty of 4WD vehicles with moderate clearance had no problem.

The final 1.1 miles to the upper TH on the 394 are impassible due to avy debris covering the road in several places, the first of which is about 0.2 mile above the junction with 391 (lower TH).

Posted By: madadraw1
Info: This is an easy class 4 road. My Rav4 can’t get up any class 4 roads except for this one. I got all the way to upper TH. Much of this road is easy to drive. It has occasional sections with increased difficulty. Bottomed out a hand full of times. One once did it make me cringe - this is about half way between the lower and upper THs. Decent amount of dispersed camp sites once get past private property.

Posted By: E_A_Marcus_949
Info: About what you’d expect from a road difficulty of 4. Some big boulders and rock obstacles. One section that was clearly a mud pile that is rutted out and dried of old car tracks with some big boulders (maybe 0.5mi to gate). Careful maneuvering up this road and you should be fine. If you can make it to the fork where the "lower TH" is, you should be able to make it up to the gate. We made it in a stock Toyota Highlander. The other few cars we saw up there were two 4Runners and a Toyota Tacoma.

Posted By: LetsGoMets
Info: Road is in pretty good shape all the way to the upper TH. Any decent clearance SUV should have no real problems going slow. If you can make it to the Lower TH, then you can make it to the Upper TH.

Posted By: TakeMeToYourSummit
Info: The 391 & the 394 roads were both clear of snow (& almost mud free) except for one short section near the TH for McNasser. This should be melted out soon with the current temps. There were a few puddles & some flowing water in spots.

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Posted By: SolarAlex
Info: Like previously mentioned, the lower part of the road is about the same difficulty of the upper 4wd part. There are a couple of rougher sections and water bars that would require careful driving in a subaru or lower clearance SUV. AWD/4wd is necessary. Road is dry to the gate

Posted By: kansas
Info: Road is pretty much the same from the La Plata TH to the Upper TH. Gets pretty rough within the first half mile and stays that way. Good clearance is a must all the way, lots of deep holes and steep bars. If you can make it to the lower TH, you will have no issues getting to the upper TH. I would not classify the lower section as "easy 4WD" anymore

Posted By: CO Native
Info: There has been some road work that added large water redirection dams in the road. Even after that there are large washes and water damaged areas. I never got out of 2wd on my vehicle driving up to the trailhead, but I certainly needed some good clearance to get through. The road between what is listed as the lower trailhead and upper trailhead isn‘t any worse (possibly better due to less use) than the road leading up to the lower trailhead. The only reason to stop any lower than the end of the road is to get 3,000 feet of elevation gain.

I would say this trailhead is a 4wd trailhead (upper and lower) but only for the clearance.

Posted By: CarpeDM
Info: Rough, but low clearance 2wd accessible to the lower TH with very careful driving. Mostly dry, with a few puddles along the way. Don‘t remember any significant problems along road to upper (4wd) TH. Unusual situation: no carpooling. So we had 4 cars at the McNasser Gulch TH: my Honda Fit, another sub-compact, and 2 sedans. It took me (and I think all others) about 30 minutes to drive the 3.3 miles up and about 25 minutes to drive down. The bottom of my front bumper scraped the ground about 4 times each way, but no other bottoming out.

The parking that we used was a campsite at about 0.1 mile before where the road splits at 3.3 miles in. Enough room for 4 or 5 cars.

Posted By: jesse
Info: 4X4 road is clear all the way to the forest service gate. All trees have been sawed and moved off of the road.

Posted By: Yikes
Info: no change, about 6 trees block the upper road. bring a chainsaw or plan on hiking from the lower TH.

Posted By: Monster5
Info: Road dry to lower trailhead (high clearance recommended). A couple larger trees block the road to the upper TH almost immediately. Once a few trees are removed, only a small snowdrift blocks the upper TH parking.

Posted By: JosephG
Info: The road is 99% snow-free to the upper trailhead. A few puddles on the way, but nothing deep.

Posted By: Dunbar
Info: Took my ‘02 Subaru Outback up to 11,100‘ on FS 394 before hitting a section that was too rough to continue. Scraped the front bumper (lightly) a couple times on some of the water bars along FS 391.

Posted By: BillMiddlebrook
Info: FS 391 is dry but has a lot of potholes and deep water bars. FS 394 (to the upper TH) is also dry with the exception of one short, muddy section with large rocks. I was able to get my extended-cab pickup through it without hitting bottom.