Arc'teryx sale, is this legit?

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Arc'teryx sale, is this legit?

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I'm not a troll. I'm also not connected with this website in any way.

This ad came into my Instagram feed and I clicked it, Arc'teryx jackets for under$100.
Is this some scam?
Feels too good to be true, even if it's a year or two past models.

https://jacket.tofestore.com/index.php?main_page=index

[https://jacket.tofestore.com/index.php?main_page=index
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This looks scammy to me. Maybe a way to get you to enter data and have it stolen.
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From their "About us" section (emphasis mine)

We are a business-to-business (B2B) and business-to-customer(B2C) online facotry, which is comprehensive trade solution provider and offers one-stop trade services to international buyers and wholesalers.

Customer's satisfaction is our top concern and we will do our best to exceed your expectations by constantly introducing exceptional quality goods, prices and world-class customer service.
We assure you of reliable quotations, prompt deliveries and stable supplies. All our goods are carefully packaged and delivered worldwide within 3-8 days.

Shopping online, you need not to pay any shipping or tax, therefore, we would give you any invoice. Our factory also has one of the most active and enthusiastic communities on the web.


I can't find any information about jackets.tofestore, or tofestore. It links to Xin outlets, which I also can't find any information on. All payment is done via Paypal which would seem to indicate they are not trying to steal credit card or bank account information, since they never see that. It could be either a phishing attempt for addresses and telephone numbers, or they could accept money from PayPal and send a different item and hope to tie you up in dispute resolution for several months. Or it could be a legitimate web company moving excess merchandise or trying to generate advertising by selling items at a loss. Also, their website says "up to 80% off one full priced item." Not sure if that's bad English, a coupon to get you in the door, etc.
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I was suckered into researching these ads as they popped up CONSTANTLY with an app I was using.

After some research, I took the plunge and bought what I hoped would be a $750 for only $100 arcteryx jacket.

It shipped from Dubai and three weeks later I got a new jacket. It’s real and doesn’t line up to the counterfeiters (search on google for counterfeit arcteryx gear) that arcteryx’s website warns against.

Not the best buying experience but it worked. Lastly, I paid thru PayPal so no identities were stolen.
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well, theres no arcteryx products on the site anymore, or their search doesnt work.
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Was it an Alpha SV? I was climbing with an Arc'teryx employee this week and he mentioned they're having a ton of counterfeiting issues, particularly with the Alpha SV jackets.
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Yes, the alpha sv pilot according to the site.
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You know that one old saying? You know the one...

It was created because of "deals" like this.

There is NFW this is legit.
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A key component of that saying is "probably." Just because something seems to good to be true, doesn't mean it is. I'm sure there are many stories of people getting amazing deals from motivated sellers, and many more stories of people getting screwed over.

The PayPal thing leads me to believe it's not stealing personal or account info. The price and lack of verifiable bona fides leads me to suspect counterfeit gear or some other non-stated deficiency.
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Ptglhs wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:14 pm A key component of that saying is "probably." Just because something seems to good to be true, doesn't mean it is.
Of course - there's always that 0.00001% chance that it actually IS a blazing deal. So if you're feeling lucky... or don't actually CARE that it's a legit Arc coat, go for it.
The PayPal thing leads me to believe it's not stealing personal or account info. The price and lack of verifiable bona fides leads me to suspect counterfeit gear or some other non-stated deficiency.
Yup - NFW it's a legit deal.
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I’m happy with my purchase. Take it for what it’s worth. As a new father to a 16 and 5 month old I only had 100 bucks to spend. My other arc jacket is the beta lt which I bought for a steal in the castle rock outlet store 4 years ago.

I’ll fully test out the new one sometime soon (in a storm) but so far it performs like my old one and the craftsmanship is similar
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CaptCO wrote: Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:04 pm Thanks for the post! Genuine or not, if it performs the same as the original I’m very interested. I think it’s more than fair if a company charges $800 for a jacket, that some copy cats can come out with a more affordable version.

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Not to derail the thread, but when I first started climbing I had similar views on Arc'teryx. I thought it was offensively overpriced. I was sure I'd never own a single piece.

Now I have an 8-year-old Gamma LT that looks and performs like the day I bought it. It's outlived countless other jackets by more affordable brands, and it's designed to literal perfection. I would not change a single thing. I have a few other Arc'teryx pieces and all of them are simply top-notch. "You get what you pay for" is a tired and often misleading phrase, but it's absolutely true of Arc'teryx. Obviously this doesn't apply to any counterfeits, though there's a (small) chance they have the same quality, I guess.
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