Is this a true statement?
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Been_Jammin
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Is this a true statement?
Per Mountain Project, “[Sunlight Spire] would be Colorado's most difficult fourteener, except that it is so close to Sunlight Peak and there is very little drop between the two.”
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Marmot72
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Re: Is this a true statement?
Yes. The spire is rated 5.10 I think, and all of the CO 14ers can be accessed by a route no harder than class 4.
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Scott P
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Re: Is this a true statement?
It's not quite true since it's just short of 14,000 feet. At one time it would thought that it might be right at 14,000 feet but LiDAR shows it most likely at 13,996. The topo maps shows it at 13,995. At one time there was was a suspected five foot correction of the geiod vs ellipsoid which caused the initial stir that it could be an unranked 14er.
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Been_Jammin
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Re: Is this a true statement?
I can’t find a definitive list of all points (Oblisks, Spires, etc) above 13.995K+ in Colorado. Does anyone have a reputable source on that?
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Scott P
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Re: Is this a true statement?
Lists of John has all the ones that are ranked, named, and/or in a guidebook:
https://www.listsofjohn.com/searchres?E ... =&State=CO
There wouldn't be a definitive list without a set criteria. Otherwise every rock or sand grain on a mountain could count. Coming up with a list of all points with a closed contour wouldn't be that hard.
https://www.listsofjohn.com/searchres?E ... =&State=CO
There wouldn't be a definitive list without a set criteria. Otherwise every rock or sand grain on a mountain could count. Coming up with a list of all points with a closed contour wouldn't be that hard.
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Been_Jammin
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Re: Is this a true statement?
I consulted Roach’s 14er guidebook. Sunlight Spire is the hardest by climbing grade on his list. Although he doesn’t make the claim in his narrative.
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Been_Jammin
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Re: Is this a true statement?
Have all closed contour points in CO been climbed?Scott P wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2026 6:57 pm Lists of John has all the ones that are ranked, named, and/or in a guidebook:
https://www.listsofjohn.com/searchres?E ... =&State=CO
There wouldn't be a definitive list without a set criteria. Otherwise every rock or sand grain on a mountain could count. Coming up with a list of all points with a closed contour wouldn't be that hard.
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Re: Is this a true statement?
Loj says 205' prominence between the Spire and Peak.Been_Jammin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2026 5:44 pm except that it is so close to Sunlight Peak and there is very little drop between the two.”
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Jim Davies
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Re: Is this a true statement?
Not a chance. There are probably thousands of them on the eastern plains that would be incredibly boring to get to, plus there's the private property issue.
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Re: Is this a true statement?
I assumed they meant "closed contours avove 14k," in which case I would guess yes, probably all points above 14k in CO, no matter how minor, have probably been visited at some point, even if unintentionally.Jim Davies wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2026 7:51 amNot a chance. There are probably thousands of them on the eastern plains that would be incredibly boring to get to, plus there's the private property issue.
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Been_Jammin
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Re: Is this a true statement?
Yes, I meant closed contour points above ~13.990K feet. Sunlight Spire is the hardest (by climbing grade) 14K ft point in Colorado... appears true.
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HikerGuy
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Re: Is this a true statement?
Except you missed the comment where it was stated the Spire is only 13,996 according to LiDAR survey. So the statement is false.Been_Jammin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 27, 2026 8:05 am Sunlight Spire is the hardest (by climbing grade) 14K ft point in Colorado... appears true.
