New Name(?) for UN 13,373 on Halo Ridge?

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New Name(?) for UN 13,373 on Halo Ridge?

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I was trying to find out what the new elevation from Lidar was for UN 13,373 on Halo Ridge. I can't seem to find it by checking each of the UN 13ers in the Sawatch list. This one is unranked so either it has a new name, or it's not listed, or I completely missed it. Please help. ](*,)
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Re: New Name(?) for UN 13,373 on Halo Ridge?

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Was it this one? This is on Halo Ridge near Holy Cross and Holy Cross Ridge. Or maybe I’m super off base and there’s a different Halo Ridge.

https://www.14ers.com/peaks/10708/unnam ... 3786?t=map
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Re: New Name(?) for UN 13,373 on Halo Ridge?

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bdloftin77 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 7:46 pm Was it this one? This is on Halo Ridge near Holy Cross and Holy Cross Ridge. Or maybe I’m super off base and there’s a different Halo Ridge.

https://www.14ers.com/peaks/10708/unnam ... 3786?t=map
No, that's on the other side of Tuhare lakes. It's the one in between UN 13,253 and Holy Cross Ridge.
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Is this the point you're referring to? It doesn't look like it's on this site, but it is on the USFS maps on CalTopo.
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Yeah, looks like the saddle is at an interpolated 13,260’, so it only has 113’ of interpolated prominence. No official or unofficial name, and not ranked. I did look on peakbagger and it has it. https://peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=46266
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Willy the Kid wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:29 pm Is this the point you're referring to? It doesn't look like it's on this site, but it is on the USFS maps on CalTopo.
Yes, that's the one I'm referring to. When you look at the route description here:
https://www.14ers.com/route.php?route=holy3
You can see it's referenced as PT 13373, whereas the first one unnamed point 13248 and the last one is back to PT 13831, aka Holy Cross Ridge. Hence my confusion, it seems as if PT 13373 should be listed in the 13ers? Maybe not.
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bdloftin77 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:06 pm Yeah, looks like the saddle is at an interpolated 13,260’, so it only has 113’ of interpolated prominence. No official or unofficial name, and not ranked. I did look on peakbagger and it has it. https://peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=46266
Yeah, I was just assuming it counted as a 13er and I could check it off, but maybe not. The other two I found on the checklist no problem, so I was thinking with Lidar the old PT 13373 changed with the new elevation, but perhaps it never existing to begin with on the 13er list on this site. A question for Bill perhaps.
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Re: New Name(?) for UN 13,373 on Halo Ridge?

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ColoNativeGal wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:42 pm
bdloftin77 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:06 pm Yeah, looks like the saddle is at an interpolated 13,260’, so it only has 113’ of interpolated prominence. No official or unofficial name, and not ranked. I did look on peakbagger and it has it. https://peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=46266
Yeah, I was just assuming it counted as a 13er and I could check it off, but maybe not. The other two I found on the checklist no problem, so I was thinking with Lidar the old PT 13373 changed with the new elevation, but perhaps it never existing to begin with on the 13er list on this site. A question for Bill perhaps.
Thanks.
Listsofjohn generally only includes peaks that are, were, or have/had the possibility of being ranked (300’+ of prominence), are officially named, or are unofficially named per signage or a guidebook.

14ers.com is pretty similar, having all ranked 13ers, all officially named 13ers, and some unofficially named 13ers (lots from Gerry Roach’s books).

It looks like peakbagger doesn’t really have limiting criteria for what qualifies as a peak, and it mentions that there are millions that could be added, assuming they’re approved by the peakbagger staff. Quite the task just reviewing and accommodating all the new peaks!

So if you like checking off every (little or big) bump you climb, peakbagger might be a good additional place to keep track.
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Re: New Name(?) for UN 13,373 on Halo Ridge?

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bdloftin77 wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:21 pm
ColoNativeGal wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:42 pm
bdloftin77 wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 9:06 pm Yeah, looks like the saddle is at an interpolated 13,260’, so it only has 113’ of interpolated prominence. No official or unofficial name, and not ranked. I did look on peakbagger and it has it. https://peakbagger.com/peak.aspx?pid=46266
Yeah, I was just assuming it counted as a 13er and I could check it off, but maybe not. The other two I found on the checklist no problem, so I was thinking with Lidar the old PT 13373 changed with the new elevation, but perhaps it never existing to begin with on the 13er list on this site. A question for Bill perhaps.
Thanks.
Listsofjohn generally only includes peaks that are, were, or have/had the possibility of being ranked (300’+ of prominence), are officially named, or are unofficially named per signage or a guidebook.

14ers.com is pretty similar, having all ranked 13ers, all officially named 13ers, and some unofficially named 13ers (lots from Gerry Roach’s books).

It looks like peakbagger doesn’t really have limiting criteria for what qualifies as a peak, and it mentions that there are millions that could be added, assuming they’re approved by the peakbagger staff. Quite the task just reviewing and accommodating all the new peaks!

So if you like checking off every (little or big) bump you climb, peakbagger might be a good additional place to keep track.
Sounds good, thanks!
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