So why bother? These naming threads reminds me of political posts on social media... bunch of people argue, nothing constructive happens, and thats it.LifeIsGood wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2026 6:12 pm This message is just to put Ben (Supranihilest) at ease, that none of these threads ever seem to gain any real traction.
Naming 13,838 and13,820?
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Re: Naming 13,838 and13,820?
After climbing a great hill, one only finds that there are many more hills to climb. -Nelson Mandela
Whenever I climb I am followed by a dog called Ego. -Nietzsche
Whenever I climb I am followed by a dog called Ego. -Nietzsche
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Re: Naming 13,838 and13,820?
PRESIDENT DUMP RENAMED DENALI BACK TO MOUNT MCKINLEY!!!
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY, COMPLETELY, and UTTERLY UNACCEPTABLE!!!
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY, COMPLETELY, and UTTERLY UNACCEPTABLE!!!
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Re: Naming 13,838 and13,820?
Reading all arguments here I was reminded of what Edward Abbey says about this in his book Desert Solitaire (1987 edition, p.226)
On naming landmarks when in 1956 he entered the Maze, what is now know as Canyon Lands National Park, with his friend Robert Waterman:
"Why call them anything at all," asks Waterman; "why not let them alone?" And Abbey agrees: "Vanity, vanity nothing but vanity: the itch for naming things is almost as bad as the itch for possessing things. Let them and leave them alone -- they'll survive for a few more thousand years, more or less without any glorification from us."
But he is hesitant. If we don't name it, someone else will. Upon which Waterman replies: "let the shame be on their heads"
Again Abbey agrees, but yet, he stipulates; "through naming comes knowing, we grasp an object, mentally by giving it a name."
I see the power of names. That's why I prefer names like the native Americans had. A name with a meaning, preferably a meaning derived from nature, the environment.
Again, reading all arguments here, a concensus seems impossible to reach. I guess the fun is in the journey here.
(although a journey without reaching the summit is not as satisfying)
On naming landmarks when in 1956 he entered the Maze, what is now know as Canyon Lands National Park, with his friend Robert Waterman:
"Why call them anything at all," asks Waterman; "why not let them alone?" And Abbey agrees: "Vanity, vanity nothing but vanity: the itch for naming things is almost as bad as the itch for possessing things. Let them and leave them alone -- they'll survive for a few more thousand years, more or less without any glorification from us."
But he is hesitant. If we don't name it, someone else will. Upon which Waterman replies: "let the shame be on their heads"
Again Abbey agrees, but yet, he stipulates; "through naming comes knowing, we grasp an object, mentally by giving it a name."
I see the power of names. That's why I prefer names like the native Americans had. A name with a meaning, preferably a meaning derived from nature, the environment.
Again, reading all arguments here, a concensus seems impossible to reach. I guess the fun is in the journey here.
(although a journey without reaching the summit is not as satisfying)
Re: Naming 13,838 and13,820?
...are the best! My friend & I hiked up 12,914 (starting from trail 1917)... & now that peak is known as "Mount of the Fancy Savage". Why? Because.
I'm horrible with names...
But will never forget a mountain's face!
But will never forget a mountain's face!
