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Re: Is this a true statement?

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Edwardteach wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2026 3:39 pm Can you confirm if you personally took these measurements or the government just took rough non specific measurements from airplane with no localized drone and tripod next to each tower

I read your profile it says you only do class 2 scrambles
Confirmed, I personally climbed and surveyed all 49 Towers of the Cimarron Forks, though I find the "localized drone and tripod" method to be unconscionably soft, hence I used a tape measure. Weather and lightning made this somewhat difficult as my sharpie marks kept washing off in the torrents, forcing me to scale each tower multiple times to get the most accurate result.

As you can imagine this is highly dangerous, so much so that upon completing the assignment I hung up my grappling hook to focus on safer pursuits. These days you'll find me in the driveway doing whips and burnouts on my E-unicycle.
d_baker wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2026 3:45 pm
Edwardteach wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2026 3:39 pm I read your profile it says you only do class 2 scrambles

If anyone has these tools I could perhaps help muscle them up to a more localized spot I'm a very skilled scrambler and very good climber but need rope training
hahahaha......Boggy, is this a true statement? hahaha
Guilty as charged though if we're splitting hairs it's rope-intensive, technical localized lidar class 2.
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Boggy B wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2026 10:51 pm
Edwardteach wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2026 3:39 pm Can you confirm if you personally took these measurements or the government just took rough non specific measurements from airplane with no localized drone and tripod next to each tower

I read your profile it says you only do class 2 scrambles
Confirmed, I personally climbed and surveyed all 49 Towers of the Cimarron Forks, though I find the "localized drone and tripod" method to be unconscionably soft, hence I used a tape measure. Weather and lightning made this somewhat difficult as my sharpie marks kept washing off in the torrents, forcing me to scale each tower multiple times to get the most accurate result.

As you can imagine this is highly dangerous, so much so that upon completing the assignment I hung up my grappling hook to focus on safer pursuits. These days you'll find me in the driveway doing whips and burnouts on my E-unicycle.
d_baker wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2026 3:45 pm
Edwardteach wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2026 3:39 pm I read your profile it says you only do class 2 scrambles
hahahaha......Boggy, is this a true statement? hahaha
Guilty as charged though if we're splitting hairs it's rope-intensive, technical localized lidar class 2.
I'm not sure what you mean by rope intensive technical lidar class 2
Can you compare this to Yosemite decimal system being class 1 2 3 and 4 are scrambling
Class 5 to 5.15d are free climbing
And class 6 is aid climbing subdivided into a scale and c scale
c scale being clean aid climbing
A1 / C1 (Easy Aid)
A2 / C2 (Moderate Aid)
A3 / C3 (Hard Aid)
A5 / C5 (Extreme Aid)
A6 is even more extreme and by definition not clean climbing as the safety rope anchors can only hold bodyweight and can't catch the climber in case of a hard fall

This is all volcanic rock spires that rival turret ridge or exceed turret ridge in difficulty turret ridge is a c2 aid climb and 5.9 yds free climb so perhaps you meant c2 aid climbing or maybe you were just kidding

I'm thankful to know now that you can take laser measurements with a wet sharpie but wouldn't a chalk stick work better?
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Edwardteach wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2026 11:39 pm Can you compare this to Yosemite decimal system being class 1 2 3 and 4 are scrambling
Class 5 to 5.15d are free climbing
Now wait a minute, Mr. Socks fox!

This was all class 2 by the Localized Lidar System, to approximate the difficulty adding all the Yosemite free solo grades together from class 1 to the hardest known grade of 5.17g, the cumulative YDS for these climbs was 105.58. One can train to this level as I have by palming basketballs glued to the ceiling of La Garita arch while taking certified measurements of its half circumference, 43' to 68', with a lidar tape measure.
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Boggy B wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2026 9:36 am Now wait a minute, Mr. Socks fox!

This was all class 2 by the Localized Lidar System, to approximate the difficulty adding all the Yosemite free solo grades together from class 1 to the hardest known grade of 5.17g, the cumulative YDS for these climbs was 105.58. One can train to this level as I have by palming basketballs glued to the ceiling of La Garita arch while taking certified measurements of its half circumference, 43' to 68', with a lidar tape measure.
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Boggy B wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2026 9:36 am
Edwardteach wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2026 11:39 pm Can you compare this to Yosemite decimal system being class 1 2 3 and 4 are scrambling
Class 5 to 5.15d are free climbing
Now wait a minute, Mr. Socks fox!

This was all class 2 by the Localized Lidar System, to approximate the difficulty adding all the Yosemite free solo grades together from class 1 to the hardest known grade of 5.17g, the cumulative YDS for these climbs was 105.58. One can train to this level as I have by palming basketballs glued to the ceiling of La Garita arch while taking certified measurements of its half circumference, 43' to 68', with a lidar tape measure.
You're teaching Edward...that's pretty special.
I don't believe his wheelie escapades. I need pictures, Edward. Cutting edge, death defying stunts needs documentation. A selfie would be great while doing a wheelie, of course.
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d_baker wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2026 10:01 am
Boggy B wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2026 9:36 am
Edwardteach wrote: Tue Sep 01, 2026 11:39 pm Can you compare this to Yosemite decimal system
Now wait a minute, Mr. Socks fox!
You're teaching Edward...that's pretty special.
I don't believe his wheelie escapades. I need pictures, Edward. Cutting edge, death defying stunts needs documentation. A selfie would be great while doing a wheelie, of course.
well i can prove some of it, i actually dont do wheelies on motorcyles, but its true i did do exactly 1 wheelie on ryan barnes's 2004 yz450 that he traded me for an old truck, the thing was the idle was too low and i had to keep reving it to keep it from stalling in nuetral

it was kind of my learner bike but it was getting too expensive to maintain and i have no interest in actually racing or doing real motorcyle stunts

i did this accidental wheelie on security camera though I have no clue if alta gas station fort garland will hand over the video, im not exactly proud of the wheelie, i thought
yall might not question it after seeing my 6 pack

plus peak motor sports alamosa can confirm they fixed the idle on the bike, and no I didn't just take it in for an idle peak Motorsports also fixed a some other things but last i heard about that bike i traded it back to ryan for his trimming machine and de-budder

my current bike is a lot more practical and cheap to maintain but is far less powerful and weighs more 2024 xt250

i actually havent attempted any wheelies on it, wheelies are significantly more difficult on low power heavy bikes and accidental wheelies would be even less likely

ryan was a skilled and talented auto and motorcycle mechanic and a good friend, but unfortuntely he was murdered shortly after we exchanged the bike for the trimming machine, allegedly by an angry tenant who refused to pay rent

Peak Motorsports has security footage of Ryan and me in the shop together
Plus we were going to do como lake road together

Ah mr boggy is quite the comedian
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And yes I can deadlift 510lbs squat 405lbs bench press 270lbs human flag tuck flag for over 10 seconds and tuck planche for over 10 seconds and it's all on video

My bodyweight is 155lbs height is 71¾" tall wingspan is 76", I can nearly touch my elbows to the floor with straight legs and have been able to palm a basketball since age 12 years old and have videos and the childhood photos to prove it

Crestone needle was the 1st 14er I summited and Blanca peak was the 2nd, I've never done any other 14ers or noteworthy peaks except green mountain Mt sanitas and bear peak all in Boulder

I did crestone needle and Blanca peak from the 2wd road

I did not camp for crestone needle but hiked up then hiked out, I have all the photos to prove it too

I had 90,000+ views on Google maps of my Blanca peak video with my dog before I took it down

I trained so hard after boulder I knew crestone needle wouldn't even be challenging for me and it wasn't

And I went up the class 4 dihedral and have the gully photos to prove it, plus the class 3 scramble on crestone needle is very hard to locate and is more exposed and thus is more dangerous if you lose your footing, and today the class 3 alternative route on crestone needle is nearly completely gone from erosion
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Edwardteach wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2026 1:18 pm And yes I can deadlift 510lbs squat 405lbs bench press 270lbs human flag tuck flag for over 10 seconds and tuck planche for over 10 seconds and it's all on video

My bodyweight is 155lbs height is 71¾" tall wingspan is 76", I can nearly touch my elbows to the floor with straight legs and have been able to palm a basketball since age 12 years old and have videos and the childhood photos to prove it

Crestone needle was the 1st 14er I summited and Blanca peak was the 2nd, I've never done any other 14ers or noteworthy peaks except green mountain Mt sanitas and bear peak all in Boulder

I did crestone needle and Blanca peak from the 2wd road

I did not camp for crestone needle but hiked up then hiked out, I have all the photos to prove it too

I had 90,000+ views on Google maps of my Blanca peak video with my dog before I took it down

I trained so hard after boulder I knew crestone needle wouldn't even be challenging for me and it wasn't

And I went up the class 4 dihedral and have the gully photos to prove it, plus the class 3 scramble on crestone needle is very hard to locate and is more exposed and thus is more dangerous if you lose your footing, and today the class 3 alternative route on crestone needle is nearly completely gone from erosion
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Edwardteach wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2026 1:18 pm And yes I can deadlift 510lbs squat 405lbs bench press 270lbs human flag tuck flag for over 10 seconds and tuck planche for over 10 seconds and it's all on video

My bodyweight is 155lbs height is 71¾" tall wingspan is 76", I can nearly touch my elbows to the floor with straight legs and have been able to palm a basketball since age 12 years old and have videos and the childhood photos to prove it
Secretary Kegsbreath, are you drunk as a f***ing skunk again? Yes, yes you are.

Unless, of course, you're actually Skyrme17 in a fake mustache! *gasp*
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supranihilest wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2026 3:25 pm
Edwardteach wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2026 1:18 pm And yes I can deadlift 510lbs squat 405lbs bench press 270lbs human flag tuck flag for over 10 seconds and tuck planche for over 10 seconds and it's all on video

My bodyweight is 155lbs height is 71¾" tall wingspan is 76", I can nearly touch my elbows to the floor with straight legs and have been able to palm a basketball since age 12 years old and have videos and the childhood photos to prove it

Unless, of course, you're actually Skyrme17 in a fake mustache! *gasp*
I'm sure he's probably got a better mountaineering record than me but probably not as good of weight lifting stats or 6 pack and even if he does I'm only a light weight 155lbs I highly doubt he beats me in pound for pound strength plus my BMI is only 21

We'll never know the prominence of the minarets because the government is broke and no private individuals want to risk their lidar tripod drone and life to find out the tallest one only has 285' of prominence