Mt Blue Sky

[pvnisher]

state road built with state tax money. The federal government cannot charge you to use the road.

Are they still trying to charge everyone at the gate when they drive in, though?

[HikesInGeologicTime]

Are they still trying to charge everyone at the gate when they drive in, though?

My experience with explaining that I didn't intend to park at any of the lots, just do a drive-by to assess snow conditions in mid-June, was that they gave me a green slip of paper and let me in for free. I imagine the green paper would have done nothing to prevent getting a ticket if I had parked at Summit Lake or the summit, but it did get me a free look at the snow conditions.

[Chicago Transplant]

Who's going to claim the first ascent of the peak since it was officially renamed?

it doesn't work that way. the mountain is still the same mountain, no matter what we humans temporarily call it. there's no such thing as a 2nd first ascent.
the first ascent of Denali was in 1913, over 100 years before it was renamed Denali. that record still stands. plenty of other mountains were climbed well before they even had an official name, those records didn't change just because someone finally decided to give those mountains a name.

Denali wasn't even officially named McKinley until 1917. Not sure if it had an official USGS name before, but it was Denali for probably hundreds of years to the native Athabascans so it probably was Denali for the first ascent

[nyker]

In such renaming situations, where some sources have the new name, some sources have the old name (not to mention the human factor, some may not realize it's renamed, or just continue using the old name or have older printed maps, be new to the area or not realize it's the same mountain), how does that impact possible SAR operations? I imagine there will be some inconsistency in software/routing apps, GPS, not to mention hardcopy maps, etc..that could cause some confusion and time delays in an emergency situation.

[curt86iroc]

In such renaming situations, where some sources have the new name, some sources have the old name (not to mention the human factor, some may not realize it's renamed, or just continue using the old name or have older printed maps, be new to the area or not realize it's the same mountain), how does that impact possible SAR operations? I imagine there will be some inconsistency in software/routing apps, GPS, not to mention hardcopy maps, etc..that could cause some confusion and time delays in an emergency situation.

a simple name change is not going to impact SAR operations on evans. the team that supports that area is quite knowledgeable...

[Trotter]

In such renaming situations, where some sources have the new name, some sources have the old name (not to mention the human factor, some may not realize it's renamed, or just continue using the old name or have older printed maps, be new to the area or not realize it's the same mountain), how does that impact possible SAR operations? I imagine there will be some inconsistency in software/routing apps, GPS, not to mention hardcopy maps, etc..that could cause some confusion and time delays in an emergency situation.

I'm sure thats relevant for some lowly 12er and 13er that gets renamed... I climbed a unnamed 13er years ago, went to add it to my 14er checklist and couldn't find it. Turns out they had renamed it Mt Cosgriff in like the past week. I bet SAR would have been confused if I had needed to call them.

For mt evans / blue sky, I'm sure SAR will remember the old name for decades.

[daway8]

Since so many of us like to obsess over pointless little details...

Would it perhaps make sense to rename the sub-summit for what's now known as Blue Sky??

Not that very many people pay attention to the existence of the sub-summits...

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[peter303]

I notice CDOT has changed the name already on its websites.

Recreation.gov uses old name.

[madbuck]

Looks like the news sources are all diligent about using the new name in their annual "road is closed for the season" articles.
Yet, they (and CDOT) still cannot be bothered to put "to vehicles" in such announcements, because of course roads are just for driving!

A silly, niche complaint, but there are examples of seasonal wildlife closures to all activities, or (e.g. Fall River Road) roads with different activity restrictions during the year. I had found some of it confusing in the past.
</end seasonal rant>

[HikesInGeologicTime]

Looks like the news sources are all diligent about using the new name in their annual "road is closed for the season" articles.
Yet, they (and CDOT) still cannot be bothered to put "to vehicles" in such announcements, because of course roads are just for driving!

Nooo, don't spread the word! The more people think that the road closure means closed to everyone, whether that's hikers, bikers, unicyclers (yes, autocorrect, I know what that's supposed to say, but my rhyme scheme must prevail), skateboarders, interpretive dancers, or pogo stick-ers, the more room there is for the rest of us!

[madmattd]

Looks like the news sources are all diligent about using the new name in their annual "road is closed for the season" articles.
Yet, they (and CDOT) still cannot be bothered to put "to vehicles" in such announcements, because of course roads are just for driving!

Nooo, don't spread the word! The more people think that the road closure means closed to everyone, whether that's hikers, bikers, unicyclers (yes, autocorrect, I know what that's supposed to say, but my rhyme scheme must prevail), skateboarders, interpretive dancers, or pogo stick-ers, the more room there is for the rest of us!

You forgot peanut-rollers

[HikesInGeologicTime]

Looks like the news sources are all diligent about using the new name in their annual "road is closed for the season" articles.
Yet, they (and CDOT) still cannot be bothered to put "to vehicles" in such announcements, because of course roads are just for driving!

Nooo, don't spread the word! The more people think that the road closure means closed to everyone, whether that's hikers, bikers, unicyclers (yes, autocorrect, I know what that's supposed to say, but my rhyme scheme must prevail), skateboarders, interpretive dancers, or pogo stick-ers, the more room there is for the rest of us!

You forgot peanut-rollers

Has anyone done that on…not-Pikes yet? I’m seeing some off-season record-setting potential if it hasn’t already expanded to the northern peaks of the Front Range!