Women's 14er FKT Claim

[jchapell]

Woahhh just logged onto this toxic site. First off, I am being fully transparent about what I did. I am not trying to draw any undue attention to culebra. I had the unique opportunity to be the first woman to go after a self-supported effort and set a precedent. I made a very intentional decision not to do Culebra, even though I was presented with the gate codes. If I trespass, y’all are unhappy. If I don’t trespass, y’all are unhappy. I was also informed that Carlos was checking the back of cars during my effort to make sure I was not in them. Honestly pretty ridiculous. As I’ve said many times before, the crux of an FKT should not be about who gets access. I wanted to go after this record anyways and that is what I did. I plan on explaining my thoughts on Culebra once I get the chance to rest and recover. And I will be very transparent with the FKT organization, which is the only entity that matters NOT the 14ers.com audience.

Erin- first, congrats on an absolutely incredible achievement. Following along I couldn't believe that morning after morning you had knocked off impressive peaks...then doubled the effort by the evening! I think it is a feat that many of us "don't know what we don't know" about the physical, mental, and emotional strength that it required. I'm inspired!

Could you elaborate on your thought process claiming "the record" (implying that you bested an effort that someone had previously completed), instead of "a self-supported effort and set a precedent" as you describe above? I understand why Culebra was not part of your effort, and think you did the right thing not trespassing. Honestly I don't think anyone here is upset that you didn't climb it. However, I struggle (and I think others do) why you have so far announced it as completing "the fourteeners" (implying 58 instead of ABC), and why describing it as a record, rather than your very accurate way you describe it above: a new precedent? Perhaps sharing how you plan to present it to FKT?

I'm not looking to "gotcha" you, and I'm sorry for the crap many are throwing your way, but I'd suggest clarifying some of your public implications could be beneficial.

[Jon Frohlich]

The thing she still doesn't seem to get is that she probably would have access if she hadn't trespassed the first time and/or shown some humility and contrition for trespassing and treated the ranch nicer.

The lack of Culebra is on her not on the ranch.

[JROSKA]

Concerning the Huron post, I wonder if many of us have fleeting thoughts of superiority like that. The difference is trying to humbly squash those thoughts with reality in mind (A: There are many people who rank higher than us athletically; B: Just because I can do something athletically that someone else can't doesn't mean I'm a better person or should look down on them) vs going ahead and posting them on social media.

oh yeah, i definitely have thoughts like that. the cure is to then think about people like Courtney Dauwalter and Killian Jornet (or pretty much any elite mountain athlete) as a reminder that no matter how fit or fast you think you are, there's always somebody out there more impressive than you. like Courtney or Killian. then i spend the rest of my time wondering what those types of people think when passing my and every other persons' slow ass out there. probably, like, clouds and birds and s**t.

I’ve evaluated my heart on this too. I don’t think I’ve ever “articulated” anything like that. However I have caught myself a few times, in situations where I just climbed a difficult peak, I’m back into the regular world, someone will cut me off or I’m arguing with someone at work, I’ll catch myself thinking, “excuse me, did YOU just climb Mt Wilson like I did?” I’m always able to squash that by remembering how small I am in the big scheme of things. I would’ve been much more prone to that in my 20’s so I think it is (in general) a maturity thing. Not always though. I am in my 50’s and I’ve seen people older than me act that way. Some people just think their presence in the universe counts for more than it does, I guess.

[HikesInGeologicTime]

Okay, I’ll bite.

Woahhh just logged onto this toxic site. First off, I am being fully transparent about what I did.

Then why the deletion of comments/blocking of commenters on Instagram who asked about Culebra? Why not answer them in the moment instead of waiting to be called out and have to walk your claims back, which you surely knew was going to happen once someone took a look at your stats?

I had the unique opportunity to be the first woman to go after a self-supported effort and set a precedent.

Yes, you did. And by all accounts, you did set a precedent - 57 peaks is awesome, especially in under 15 days (I say that as someone who has taken 18 years to get to 55). It was trying to claim 58 by obfuscation that’s causing backlash.

I made a very intentional decision not to do Culebra, even though I was presented with the gate codes... I was also informed that Carlos was checking the back of cars during my effort to make sure I was not in them.

So…you either had the gate codes through legitimate means but chose not to use them for…some reason…or you obtained them in a shady manner, the latter heavily implied by the need for Carlos to be checking the back of cars like he’s The Law in a Prohibition-era alcohol smuggling mob drama?

I plan on explaining my thoughts on Culebra once I get the chance to rest and recover. And I will be very transparent with the FKT organization, which is the only entity that matters NOT the 14ers.com audience.

You already laid out your thoughts in the thread you created to beg people with standing Culebra reservations if they could sneak you past the gate like a liquor cache in the 1920s. But hey, I know I will absolutely be scarfing down any more “thoughts” you decide to share with us non-elite 14ers.com plebes - I’ve got a personal interest in watching how the spin changes when BSers get called out on their nonsense.

Again, no one wants to degrade of what you *actually did,* which is truly an impressive and noteworthy accomplishment that many of us on this forum are incapable of replicating, much less improving on. But it is upsetting, to put it mildly, when someone overstates their achievement and then pitches a fit when the truth comes out.

[nunns]

unfortunately it just doesn’t make sense to make that argument

Cameron: ~ 0 minutes
Conundrum: ~30 minutes
North Eolus: ~10 minutes

Culebra: 1/2 a day

Also the time it takes to drive to one of the most isolated and southernmost 14er and to the next closest 14er

Not to mention the logistics. Unlike a lot of other 14ers, you can't just park at the Culebra TH and start hiking the minute you arrive.
Every other person who set, or attempted to set, an FKT for the 14ers had to deal with the logistics and timing of Culebra. Along with the train into and out of Chi Basin, Culebra poses the greatest logistical challenge for a 14ers FKT attempt.

Sean Nunn
Raytown MO

[Eli Boardman]

or you obtained them in a shady manner, the latter heavily implied by the need for Carlos to be checking the back of cars like he’s The Law in a Prohibition-era alcohol smuggling mob drama?

Ok, this one quote has saved the thread, congrats

[angry]

Being fully transparent would include stating in the caption that what was achieved is the ABC FKT. The 14er FKT still belongs to Dan. Intentionally withholding important information (aka lying by omission) is toxic. Blocking any comments on IG that point out the omission perpetuates the lie.

[meltedavocado]

I’m so curious about what I see as misogyny embedded in the character assassination of Erin. I get feeling there’s dishonesty around the Culebra issue (although why we’re directing our animosity at a fellow hiker and not the lack of a right to roam in America is beyond me). I don’t know the whole history there, but I’m seeing so much tone policing here, it’s uncomfortable. When she made that comment about “dudes” not getting out of the way, the gender wasn’t irrelevant. I’ve had similar interactions, and I’m not even an athlete! Men who’ve felt the need to make condescending comments to me when I navigate around them because they haven’t let me pass, like “good girl” or “wow” or some other expression of surprise, to mitigate any encroaching feelings of emasculation. It’s possible that in a short hand way she was responding to that kind of dynamic. I know as a “public” figure, you might argue that you’re holding her to a different standard, but I’d encourage you to cut the young woman some slack. Feel free to criticize me/my comments as too gender-specific, but I haven’t seen anyone acknowledge the gender dynamics embedded in the documented screenshot.

[nickaa]

https://fastestknowntime.com/route/colo ... teeners-co

Not listed as the FKT. Impressive time running on peaks but partial reps don't count!

[ClimbingFool]

Erin - a gifted athlete you are. An ambassador - you are not.

I sent this to La Sportiva just now:

Over the past decade I have frequently purchased your products but am now switching to another brand. One of your ambassadors, Erin Ton, is deceiving the public about her accomplishments and is denigrating the mountain climbing community in her communications. Please consider seeking more empathizing, humble, and ethical ambassador representation.

[ultimategully]

The entitlement in the Huron post: "How dare these plebs try to hike a public trail that I also happen to be hiking on, my hiking goals are more important than theirs because I am sponsored athlete, go back to your beer and burgers you fat lazy normies." That's how the post comes across, hence some of the backlash she is receiving.

[HikesInGeologicTime]

or you obtained them in a shady manner, the latter heavily implied by the need for Carlos to be checking the back of cars like he’s The Law in a Prohibition-era alcohol smuggling mob drama?

Ok, this one quote has saved the thread, congrats

Ha, thanks, I couldn’t resist!