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Some more bad news: I just got word that the Decalibron owners have indeed decided to close the 14ers; the Colorado Sun is running an article with the news tomorrow morning. Sad, but not shocking, given the response the bill got.
And you can thank your esteemed Democrat Party for that. Elections do have consequences...
Bad decisions often make good stories.
IPAs + Ambien = "14ers" post (Bill M.)
In their hearts humans plan their course, but the Lord establishes their steps. Proverbs 16:9
The bill was bipartisan, with Republican and Democratic co-sponsors in both the Assembly and Senate. One of the three opponents testifying against the bill was a Republican lobbyist. This legislation cut across both parties in strange ways and had both support and opposition among both parties.
The obstacle in this situation was the three specific Senators who voted no. A Democrat Senator interested in co-sponsoring actually testified in favor of the bill to attempt to convince them to vote yes but wasn't successful.
Given that it is a bipartisan bill, partisan attacks won't help pass the bill - if anything they cause division and help split the coalition.
-Alex Derr
"Some people go to church, other people explore the outdoors. But we're all looking for the same thing, at the core of it: A place in and respect for the world bigger than ourselves."
amderr22 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:42 pm
Given that it is a bipartisan bill, partisan attacks won't help pass the bill - if anything they cause division and help split the coalition.
amderr22 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:42 pm
Given that it is a bipartisan bill, partisan attacks won't help pass the bill - if anything they cause division and help split the coalition.
Welcome to the Internet!
Yeah haha, I had that one coming.
-Alex Derr
"Some people go to church, other people explore the outdoors. But we're all looking for the same thing, at the core of it: A place in and respect for the world bigger than ourselves."
amderr22 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:14 pm Some more bad news: I just got word that the Decalibron owners have indeed decided to close the 14ers; the Colorado Sun is running an article with the news tomorrow morning. Sad, but not shocking, given the response the bill got.
After finishing the 58 last summer I set out to summit the ones I did before my 70th birthday and therefore do them all after 70. I’m currently well into 73. The first thing I did was the Decalibron (with a Bross bypass) because I thought a closure might happen again. Yes, Lindsey is a problem too. I am fully capable to do it now, but if this drags on, there is no guarantee as I get older. I also need to get my butt up Sherman, just in case.
I think closing the Decalibron is a good strategy. It should motivate a lot of discontent that will light some fires under the legislators.
Some more bad news: I just got word that the Decalibron owners have indeed decided to close the 14ers; the Colorado Sun is running an article with the news tomorrow morning. Sad, but not shocking, given the response the bill got.
And you can thank your esteemed Democrat Party for that. Elections do have consequences...
Some more bad news: I just got word that the Decalibron owners have indeed decided to close the 14ers; the Colorado Sun is running an article with the news tomorrow morning. Sad, but not shocking, given the response the bill got.
And you can thank your esteemed Democrat Party for that. Elections do have consequences...
greenonion wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:54 pm
Obviously a deep thinker you are 4u2.
Well, scallion, think on this: The powerful Trial Lawyers Association contributed heavily to those same democrats and ultimately influenced the outcome of the vote, convincing 3 democrats (but no republicans) to vote "no". So much for a bipartisan effort. I dare say if this had been reversed, you would be spewing vileness toward the republicans and their influenced cronies for being bought out by special interests and scuttling the Bill. If you wish to defend the likes of the Trial Lawyers Association and their powerful PAC, then please enjoy the outcome. Here's a nice overview article for you.
Uh, there are plenty of special interest groups on both sides of the aisle that have successfully lobbied against reforms that are in the public's best interest. The problem is that the system enables this kind of legal bribery to begin with.
ekalina wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:59 am
The problem is that the system enables this kind of legal bribery to begin with.
THAT we can agree on.
But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.
Philippians 3: 13-14
ekalina wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:59 amThe problem is that the system enables this kind of legal bribery to begin with.
Correct. In this particular case, it wasn't "both sides of the aisle" but democrats cozy with the Trial Lawyers Association that killed it. But state-wide tort reform will be necessary to correct this issue. Texas was able to achieve such reform years ago, and it has worked well.
Bad decisions often make good stories.
IPAs + Ambien = "14ers" post (Bill M.)
In their hearts humans plan their course, but the Lord establishes their steps. Proverbs 16:9
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