Women's 14er FKT Claim

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Re: Women's 14er FKT Claim*

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She did 57 peaks fast that's for sure. One thing is for certain. I couldn't do it. Good for her.

That said, every time I see anything about her she is being self centered, knocking others or stretching the truth. Not at all a good thing for the FYT sport or her for that matter.
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Culebra or not, this is a major feat. Congrats, Erin.
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Good for her for disparaging the post-hike beer and burger thing. Should be drinking a beer ON the summit, and skipping the burger all together. This planet can't sustain all these cow farts warming our planet.
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Re: Women's 14er FKT Claim*

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BillMiddlebrook wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:08 am
jchapell wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 8:02 amI equally hope that Erin will revise/clarify the description of her record and that the 14er community can applaud her mind-blowing effort.
Agreed. As well as show a bit of humility and stop bashing other hikers for hiking. I don't understand that.
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It's a tremendous achievement. It really is. If she puts the correct label on it, then we can all congratulate her on it! Otherwise, she's claiming to do something that she didn't actually do.

Concerning the Huron post, I wonder if many of us have fleeting thoughts of superiority like that. The difference is trying to humbly squash those thoughts with reality in mind (A: There are many people who rank higher than us athletically; B: Just because I can do something athletically that someone else can't doesn't mean I'm a better person or should look down on them) vs going ahead and posting them on social media.

While neither of these take away from the achievement itself, they do severely blemish her reputation and credibility. Honesty and humility are important qualities, no matter how great of an athlete you are.

Erin, if you are reading this: Congratulations! What you just did was amazing, and something you should be proud of. Something I could only dream of doing. I'd suggest putting our a revision statement that you are claiming the ABC self-supported record. I'd also suggest putting out an apology for some of the statements you've made. The first will allow people to respect your record. The second will allow people to respect your character, which is arguably more important.

P.S. Looks like I'm unintentionally echoed ultimategully's bullet points at I typed this out. Seems like these are commonly shared sentiments.
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It is a major feat, she is quite an athlete, but it’s not a 14er FKT without Culebra.

This reminds me of the Boston Marathon runner Rosie Ruiz who crossed the finish line first and declared winner in the female category. It was also the fastest female time. Later it was found that she did not run the entire race. As a result, she was stripped of the win and the record.
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Woahhh just logged onto this toxic site. First off, I am being fully transparent about what I did. I am not trying to draw any undue attention to culebra. I had the unique opportunity to be the first woman to go after a self-supported effort and set a precedent. I made a very intentional decision not to do Culebra, even though I was presented with the gate codes. If I trespass, y’all are unhappy. If I don’t trespass, y’all are unhappy. I was also informed that Carlos was checking the back of cars during my effort to make sure I was not in them. Honestly pretty ridiculous. As I’ve said many times before, the crux of an FKT should not be about who gets access. I wanted to go after this record anyways and that is what I did. I plan on explaining my thoughts on Culebra once I get the chance to rest and recover. And I will be very transparent with the FKT organization, which is the only entity that matters NOT the 14ers.com audience.
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Erin’s physical capability has always been undeniable, and certainly that is evidenced in this endeavor. I think we all agree on that. I think we probably also agree that, as with so many other things in life, HOW one gets from point A to point B matters just as much (if not more?) as what the endeavor itself entails. Unfortunately for her, the athletic accomplishment is fleeting in the grand scheme of life and time without the backing of integrity, honesty, humility – and community and the respect thereof. She will have her 15 minutes of fame thanks to her carefully curated version of events, but it’s only momentary glory, not legacy.

She’s worthy of all the scrutiny of what she did or didn’t do and whether it’s a valid FKT (which it’s not). It’s no different than the scrutiny any “mainstream” athlete would be under if their integrity were in question, so I’m glad the physical feat doesn’t overshadow the facts. Though, honestly, more appalling to me than her misrepresentation of what she did is how she is toward others. Her attitude, ego, entitlement, and sheer thoughtlessness toward community (here and at large) is truly dumbfounding to me. Clearly, she’s also forgotten she wasn’t always an elite athlete. The good news for us is our lives go on unbothered regardless of what she does or doesn’t do, but SHE has to live with the side effects and detriment of constantly short-changing herself.

Since this was a women-specific record attempt, I will also say it’s disappointing that she’s of a character that can’t be championed by other women. What she’s role-modeling is sour. Women deserve good representatives in this community, and she’s not one of them. So, this has been disappointing on all fronts.
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bdloftin77 wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:03 am Concerning the Huron post, I wonder if many of us have fleeting thoughts of superiority like that. The difference is trying to humbly squash those thoughts with reality in mind (A: There are many people who rank higher than us athletically; B: Just because I can do something athletically that someone else can't doesn't mean I'm a better person or should look down on them) vs going ahead and posting them on social media.
oh yeah, i definitely have thoughts like that. the cure is to then think about people like Courtney Dauwalter and Killian Jornet (or pretty much any elite mountain athlete) as a reminder that no matter how fit or fast you think you are, there's always somebody out there more impressive than you. like Courtney or Killian. then i spend the rest of my time wondering what those types of people think when passing my and every other persons' slow ass out there. probably, like, clouds and birds and s**t.
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The issue is not skipping Culebra. The issue is disparaging people who have just as much of a right as you to be recreating in the mountains, then presenting your accomplishments publicly in a way that misrepresents the truth and is only targeted to get this same demographic to fawn over you. I'm willing to bet most of your Instagram followers are the "average hiker" you seem to despise...little do they know what you say about them behind their back on Strava and on here.
highheeledhiker wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:08 amAnd I will be very transparent with the FKT organization, which is the only entity that matters NOT the 14ers.com audience.
You're aware that the "14ers.com audience" includes practically all of the current and previous 14er record holders, as well as a pretty decent sample of other extreme endurance athletes?

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As I said before, at what point does La Sportiva get held accountable for the behavior of its athletes? Certainly I can't be the only one who has reached out to them.
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highheeledhiker wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:08 am Woahhh just logged onto this toxic site. First off, I am being fully transparent about what I did. I am not trying to draw any undue attention to culebra. I had the unique opportunity to be the first woman to go after a self-supported effort and set a precedent. I made a very intentional decision not to do Culebra, even though I was presented with the gate codes. If I trespass, y’all are unhappy. If I don’t trespass, y’all are unhappy. I was also informed that Carlos was checking the back of cars during my effort to make sure I was not in them. Honestly pretty ridiculous. As I’ve said many times before, the crux of an FKT should not be about who gets access. I wanted to go after this record anyways and that is what I did. I plan on explaining my thoughts on Culebra once I get the chance to rest and recover. And I will be very transparent with the FKT organization, which is the only entity that matters NOT the 14ers.com audience.
We just ask you take Danelle’s name and time out of it, and dan’s as well.

Claim your own fkt, leave out the previous record holders times.


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MaryinColorado wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:12 am Though, honestly, more appalling to me than her misrepresentation of what she did is how she is toward others. Her attitude, ego, entitlement, and sheer thoughtlessness toward community (here and at large) is truly dumbfounding to me.
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highheeledhiker wrote: Wed Aug 02, 2023 9:08 am Woahhh just logged onto this toxic site.
Oof. I’m sorry you feel that way, Erin.

This thread is open to the public for discussion because you’ve publicly claimed a FKT of the 14ers which is of great interest to the community.

Congratulations again on the major accomplishment.
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