Since there isn't enough information in what zephyr_words has provided for us to tell what his experience level is, you almost have to assume that either of the Crestones, traverse or not, are not the right place for him to be.JayMiller wrote:As so many of us do, I think zephyr_words is over estimating the slope. A 70 degree slope is nearly vertical. I you are standing on a 70 degree slope the wall is only 2 feet in front of your face. I can't think of anything approaching a cliff on Democrat. I can't remember a slope much over 40 or 45 Degrees.
There are lots of fun, more accessible places to play where a SAR team won't have to help you learn from your mistakes.