Cielo Vista Ranch 13ers June 22 and 23
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Re: Cielo Vista Ranch 13ers June 22 and 23
Add me to the northern peaks roster.
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Re: Cielo Vista Ranch 13ers June 22 and 23
I am interested in both days.
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Re: Cielo Vista Ranch 13ers June 22 and 23
I'm also interested in both groups of peaks!
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Re: Cielo Vista Ranch 13ers June 22 and 23
For those of you doing the northern peaks, make sure you include De Anza Peak. That way, you won't be tempted to poach De Anza later from the north via Maxwell/Mariquita.
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Re: Cielo Vista Ranch 13ers June 22 and 23
De Anza is on Bar NI property and they consider it poaching. They don't monitor it as much as Mariquita though.
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Re: Cielo Vista Ranch 13ers June 22 and 23
Please add me for the northern group!
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Re: Cielo Vista Ranch 13ers June 22 and 23
CVR lets you climb De Anza from Whiskey Pass, so you'll want to do so while you're there. The alternative (from the north via Maxwell/Mariquita) has you on Bar NI property the entire way after you leave Maxwell's summit.CaptainSuburbia wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:01 pmDe Anza is on Bar NI property and they consider it poaching. They don't monitor it as much as Mariquita though.
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Re: Cielo Vista Ranch 13ers June 22 and 23
You can ask Cielo Vista about this, but they'll say you will need to make separate arrangements with Bar N-I for De Anza.Mtnman200 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:30 pmCVR lets you climb De Anza from Whiskey Pass, so you'll want to do so while you're there. The alternative (from the north via Maxwell/Mariquita) has you on Bar NI property the entire way after you leave Maxwell's summit.CaptainSuburbia wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:01 pmDe Anza is on Bar NI property and they consider it poaching. They don't monitor it as much as Mariquita though.
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Re: Cielo Vista Ranch 13ers June 22 and 23
Question for the group. I haven't spent much time looking into these 13ers. I have only done Red and Culebra, and that was a long time ago. Is everything from Trinchera Peak to Purgatoire Peak on private property? If so... are all summits available if you get permission and pay any fees?
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Re: Cielo Vista Ranch 13ers June 22 and 23
That’s not what they said when I was there, Judd!CaptainSuburbia wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:09 pmYou can ask Cielo Vista about this, but they'll say you will need to make separate arrangements with Bar N-I for De Anza.Mtnman200 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:30 pmCVR lets you climb De Anza from Whiskey Pass, so you'll want to do so while you're there. The alternative (from the north via Maxwell/Mariquita) has you on Bar NI property the entire way after you leave Maxwell's summit.CaptainSuburbia wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:01 pm
De Anza is on Bar NI property and they consider it poaching. They don't monitor it as much as Mariquita though.
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Re: Cielo Vista Ranch 13ers June 22 and 23
I'm interested in the northern peaks but that weekend doesn't work for me unfortunately. If anyone else puts together a different date keep me in mind. I really enjoyed the southern group last summer
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Re: Cielo Vista Ranch 13ers June 22 and 23
mjlucarelli wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 4:48 pm Question for the group. I haven't spent much time looking into these 13ers. I have only done Red and Culebra, and that was a long time ago. Is everything from Trinchera Peak to Purgatoire Peak on private property? If so... are all summits available if you get permission and pay any fees?
Here's your rundown, from north to south:Mtnman200 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:23 pmThat’s not what they said when I was there, Judd!CaptainSuburbia wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:09 pmYou can ask Cielo Vista about this, but they'll say you will need to make separate arrangements with Bar N-I for De Anza.
Trinchera - public land
"Leaning South" - public land
Cuatro - public land
Maxwell - summit is split between public land and Bar NI ranch, access is legal
Mariquita - Bar NI ranch, no legal access
De Anaza - summit split between Bar NI ranch and Cielo Vista Ranch, legal access with permission from Cielo Vista Ranch*
Beaubien - legal access with permission from Cielo Vista Ranch
Francisco - legal access with permission from Cielo Vista Ranch
UN 13569 - legal access with permission from Cielo Vista Ranch
UN 13226 - legal access with permission from Cielo Vista Ranch
Culebra - legal access with permission from Cielo Vista Ranch
Red - legal access with permission from Cielo Vista Ranch
Vermejo - legal access with permission from Cielo Vista Ranch
Alamosito - legal access with permission from Cielo Vista Ranch
Purgatoire - legal access with permission from Cielo Vista Ranch
*note: this was true in July of 2021, per Cielo Vista ranch staff