"near-dead" 14er hiker recovers

[ltlFish99]

Cool story with a wonderful outcome.
I am glad the gentleman survived.

[timisimaginary]

so you're allowed to thank god but you're not allowed to thank the FSM? seems like a double standard to me.

i guess we need a list of approved deities we can refer to. hopefully Xenu and Cthulhu make the list, i'm kinda partial to the interdimensional variety.

[HikerGuy]

I just fail to understand why anyone needs to use a mountain climbing website to make fun of Christianity, unless they have a real ax (adze?) to grind for some reason. If that is the case, please take that up somewhere else. I would be happy to have a conversation with you about it.

Sean Nunn

Hmm. The only ax grinding I see here is being done by you. I'm still waiting for an apology for the uncalled for attack by you. What kind of person says the following about someone when they don't know a single thing about them? All I did was post a link to a common internet reference for heaven's sake.

Being an unbeliever/agnostic/athiest is one thing and I can respect that.
Spoofing the belief system of millions of people is another story. I will pray for you sir. Someone must have hurt you severely to make you this way.

[ncxhjhgvbi]

The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a true religious belief, but a spoof of intelliigent design/Christian beliefs, as it says on the sidebar of the page referenced in this thread:

"An elaborate spoof on Intelligent Design,"
Sean Nunn

"The "Flying Spaghetti Monster" was first described in a satirical open letter written by Bobby Henderson in 2005 to protest the Kansas State Board of Education decision to permit teaching intelligent design as an alternative to evolution in public school science classes...[the]Flying Spaghetti Monster is often used as a contemporary version of Russell's teapot—an argument that the philosophic burden of proof lies upon those who make unfalsifiable claims."

There was no mal-intent towards Christianity upon original creation. The whole point was to prove that everyone is entitled to believe what they want to believe, but NOT entitled to force those beliefs on another (specifically in a publicly funded setting).

We actually learned about this in my Catholic high school theology classes when discussing separation of church and state.

[two lunches]

Many paths to enlightenment ladies/gentlemen/tortellinis

justin this just screams signature line..

[nunns]

The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not a true religious belief, but a spoof of intelliigent design/Christian beliefs

Hm, I would much object to equating christianity (a religious belief system) with intelligent design (a pseudo-science with a largely anti science sentiment and intent).

Fair enough. They definitely aren't the same thing, but they certainly aren't mutually exclusive either. Lots of people that are members of both groups, myself included.

In terms of conflating the two, that was done by the person who posted "he boiled for your sins" in reference to the FSM. It is an obvious dig at the primary tenet of Christianity: the death of Christ on the cross as a substitutionary atonement for sin. Which was my original point: I am not sure why it is necessary in a forum about mountaineering.
IMO only someone who really hates Christianity would post something like that.

Sean Nunn

[Jenna N S]

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Fair enough. They definitely aren't the same thing, but they certainly aren't mutually exclusive either. Lots of people that are members of both groups, myself included.

In terms of conflating the two, that was done by the person who posted "he boiled for your sins" in reference to the FSM. It is an obvious dig at the primary tenet of Christianity: the death of Christ on the cross as a substitutionary atonement for sin. Which was my original point: I am not sure why it is necessary in a forum about mountaineering.
IMO only someone who really hates Christianity would post something like that.

Sean Nunn
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or only someone who's faith is barely hanging by a thread would be offended by such an obvious joke...

[nunns]

Fair enough. They definitely aren't the same thing, but they certainly aren't mutually exclusive either. Lots of people that are members of both groups, myself included.

In terms of conflating the two, that was done by the person who posted "he boiled for your sins" in reference to the FSM. It is an obvious dig at the primary tenet of Christianity: the death of Christ on the cross as a substitutionary atonement for sin. Which was my original point: I am not sure why it is necessary in a forum about mountaineering.
IMO only someone who really hates Christianity would post something like that.

Sean Nunn
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or only someone who's faith is barely hanging by a thread would be offended by such an obvious joke...
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My faith is fine thank you. I appreciate your concern though.
To me 14ers.com isn't the site for religious jokes, racial jokes, etc.

Sean Nunn

[nunns]

Fair enough. They definitely aren't the same thing, but they certainly aren't mutually exclusive either. Lots of people that are members of both groups, myself included.

In terms of conflating the two, that was done by the person who posted "he boiled for your sins" in reference to the FSM. It is an obvious dig at the primary tenet of Christianity: the death of Christ on the cross as a substitutionary atonement for sin. Which was my original point: I am not sure why it is necessary in a forum about mountaineering.
IMO only someone who really hates Christianity would post something like that.

Sean Nunn

or only someone who's faith is barely hanging by a thread would be offended by such an obvious joke...

My faith is fine thank you. I appreciate your concern though.
To me 14ers.com isn't the site for religious jokes, racial jokes, etc.

Sean Nunn
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How many times have you sinned Sean Nunn
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Plenty of times, Mr. CO, plenty of times. That is why I need the substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ.

Sean Nunn

[timisimaginary]

let he who is without sin cast the first stone... unless he's Dr. Jon K on a mountaintop

[mtnkub]

Plenty of times, Mr. CO, plenty of times. That is why I need the substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ.

But maybe, just maybe, He has better humor than you appear to think.

[mtnkub]

Hm, I would much object to equating christianity (a religious belief system) with intelligent design (a pseudo-science with a largely anti science sentiment and intent).

Fair enough. They definitely aren't the same thing, but they certainly aren't mutually exclusive either. Lots of people that are members of both groups, myself included.

If you are christian, you likely believe in a creator. If you are an intelligent design supporter, you want your religious beliefs to be taught in science class.
In the latter case, please get off my lawn (and maybe contemplate Mark 12:17).