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Injured hiker rescued from Wilson Peak

Postby robby40 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:38 am

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Re: Headline: Injured hiker rescued from Wilson Peak

Postby MonGoose » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:35 am

Man, rough week in the Wilson Group. :(

From the article:
"Masters estimated that the helicopter rescue mission cost at least $5,000. He said Kedge did not have a Colorado Outdoor Recreation Search and Rescue card."

Everyone who hikes in CO should have a CORSAR card.
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Re: Headline: Injured hiker rescued from Wilson Peak

Postby James Dziezynski » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:51 am

Just a note with the COSAR card -- I agree, it's cheap as dirt and everyone should have one ($3 per year, $12 for 5 years). However, it doesn't cover air evacuations but it does cover the cost of air-based search.
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Re: Headline: Injured hiker rescued from Wilson Peak

Postby JenGa » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:14 am

Wow - really glad that both these hikers are okay. A friend and I are hiking the Wilson group next month. I just purchased a 5-year CORSAR card for the $12. Totally worth it to support SAR.

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Re: Injured hiker rescued from Wilson Peak

Postby edhaman » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:51 pm

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but everything I've been told about the CORSAR card is that it does not "cover" any cost that might be charged to the card holder being rescued. It is simply proof of having made a contribution to search and rescue teams. In other words, someone with a card does not receive any services that someone without the card would also receive; someone with a card is not charged any less than someone without the card.

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Re: Injured hiker rescued from Wilson Peak

Postby Jim Davies » Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:59 pm

True. It helps SAR recover their costs if you have one. If you never need rescue, it's a donation to the fund. Most organizations don't charge for rescues either way as a matter of policy - they don't want you delaying your 911 call because you might get charged for it.

OTOH, you will get charged for a helicopter evac in some cases, but health insurance will usually cover it (like an ambulance).
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Re: Injured hiker rescued from Wilson Peak

Postby jwinters » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:04 pm

Anybody know if this type of rescue would be covered by the American Alpine Club insurance that comes with their membership?

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Re: Injured hiker rescued from Wilson Peak

Postby JenGa » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:27 pm

The AAC membership ($75 annual) does provide up to $5000 in rescue costs, along with other cool stuff like 20% off Patagonia online shopping.

http://americanalpineclub.org/p/global_rescue

I like the CORSAR because it helps the SAR recoup their funds.

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Re: Injured hiker rescued from Wilson Peak

Postby mtnview » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:31 pm

It would be interesting to know more details and what type of footwear he was using, low cuts or hiking boots.

Or if that even mattered due to the type of fall.
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Re: Injured hiker rescued from Wilson Peak

Postby Lutefisk » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:51 pm

COSAR card will cover the cost of aircraft/helicopter search and the rescue, not the subsequent aero medical evacuation.
It might re-imburse the a portion of the response or search by a medevac, but you're rolling the dice.

Several Sheriff's Offices and Natl Parks will, might or reserve the right to bill. Many SAR groups object and say billing will delay the call for help. Everyone gets an opinion, but most people don't hesitate to call an ambulance because they'll be billed. Whatever, responsible back country users will have a COSAR card. While not an insurance policy, did does permit County Sheriff's to seek reimbursement from the fund created by card sales. Responsible Sheriff's Offices and their SAR teams need to actively promote and assist in the sale of COSAR cards. Unfortunately, many people and groups blab incorrect information about billing or no billing. The bottom line is the Sheriff has the authority and responsibility for SAR in Colorado, excepting Natl Parks and a couple other exceptions. To obtain accurate information on any billing liability, talk to the Sheriff of that particular county...and the answer will vary across the state. All agencies I know of that "bill" are only billing for the aviation portion of the bill.
In this period of shrinking County budgets, I suspect increased pressure will be placed on the SAR victim to pay for the extraordinary portion of their rescue....and that almost always means the helicopter bill.

25' fall, light boots AIR, 500' lower (125 rock, rest snow) to LZ. Rescue helo with ambulance transfer at Tride Airport. NO COSAR CARD! Helo bill estimated 5-7000. Thanks if any of you helped. And thanks if you stopped your ascent/descent to control rock fall.

Please have a COSAR card and encourage all to get one. Forget the one year, get a 5 yr for twelve bucks....

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Re: Injured hiker rescued from Wilson Peak

Postby Sterl » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:06 am

This is the first I've heard of COSAR cards... Learn something new everyday about this state... Thanks for the info. Sounds like a no brainer when you think about what it supports...
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Re: Injured hiker rescued from Wilson Peak

Postby Hungry Jack » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:40 pm

That's a helluva place to stop for lunch.
I need more dehydrogenase.

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