sawtooth exposure
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sawtooth exposure
I was curious, when you cross over to the west side of the sawtooth ridge, how narrow do the ledges get? I've looked at a number of trip reports and photos, but I can't quite get a clear picture. Thanks.
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Re: sawtooth exposure
Maybe 3' at the tightest spot if I'm remembering correctly (it's been a bit since I was up there). The walking part really isn't bad at all. I think most folks who have a problem with that stretch worry because the drop off at the edge is so immediate. It's a long way down from there.
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Re: sawtooth exposure
I've been through there a few times. To me the ledges immediately after the crossover don't feel that exposed, since you can always hug the wall to the right (B to E). I have always had the most trouble at the inside corner as you turn left. It is a loose, downsloping gully with a huge drop off. After that, once you get your feet used to loose dirt/gravel, climbing out isn't that big of a deal, but the corner always gets me going.
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Re: sawtooth exposure
3' sounds about right. It's not that narrow for that long, and it doesn't get so narrow that you have to struggle to keep your balance. I agree with emcee that the sketchiest part comes right after that first ledge, where you have to go up all the loose crap before the final turn exiting the Sawtooth. I felt like if I tripped, I'd slide right off the edge. But I don't recall any difficulty or scary exposure at the part you're asking about.
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Re: sawtooth exposure
This was the first 3rd class 14er that my wife and I did. We wern't bothered by it until that "inside corner" that emcee is talking about. It got us a little worked up to say the least, it's loose gravel and slopes down over a huge cliff.emcee smith wrote:I've been through there a few times. To me the ledges immediately after the crossover don't feel that exposed, since you can always hug the wall to the right (B to E). I have always had the most trouble at the inside corner as you turn left. It is a loose, downsloping gully with a huge drop off. After that, once you get your feet used to loose dirt/gravel, climbing out isn't that big of a deal, but the corner always gets me going.
Still very worth the trip.
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Re: sawtooth exposure
I recall that there was one rock sticking out at about chest level that either required you to bend down and crawl under it or else reach around it for a hand hold as you leaned over the edge of the dropoff. That was the only place where I can really see the exposure getting to someone. Even then, I really didn't think the sawtooth was that bad. I'd like to go back and do it again!
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Re: sawtooth exposure
This picture might help. The green line shows where you cross over the ridge and start walking along the ledge. You can see a couple hikers (for perspective) circled in yellow. The rock I was talking about above is circled in blue. I'm also attaching another picture to show you what the ridge looks like after that rock.
Re: sawtooth exposure
That's exactly what got my attention on this route, as well. Make sure you wear a helmet. There was spontaneous rockfall in this area the day I was there.emcee smith wrote:I've been through there a few times. To me the ledges immediately after the crossover don't feel that exposed, since you can always hug the wall to the right (B to E). I have always had the most trouble at the inside corner as you turn left. It is a loose, downsloping gully with a huge drop off. After that, once you get your feet used to loose dirt/gravel, climbing out isn't that big of a deal, but the corner always gets me going.
Still very worth the trip.
The Sawtooth proper is great fun if you like to scramble.
I did it solo, and there was no traffic after leaving Bierstadt until I got to Evans the day I was up there.
It's a fun hike/climb.
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Re: sawtooth exposure
I'll echo what everyone else has said. In my experience, the worst part was the loose rocks, etc. while working up the ramp past the ledges section. The ledges are not bad at all. My brother and I stopped, just after crossing to the west side to check out the exposure, but once we started moving towards the ramp, I was so focused on where my feet (and, later, hands) were being placed that I don't remember feeling ANY worry about the "narrowness" (not a real word, I know) of the ledges. Working down the N face of Bierstadt was probably the "worst" part of the entire day. The best part = having a ride waiting at the top of Mt. Evans. Thanks Dad.
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Re: sawtooth exposure
The exposure looks worse than it is.
Here's the exit ramp from afar -- looks exposed:
The ledge is actually pretty wide once you're on it:
Definitely recommend crampons in winter, though.
Here's the exit ramp from afar -- looks exposed:
The ledge is actually pretty wide once you're on it:
Definitely recommend crampons in winter, though.