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Re: First 14ers Advice

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political animal wrote:
Trotter wrote:But doing Longs peak as one of your first 14ers?!?!?! I'd rethink that. That's not a beginner hike
I concur that Long's Peak isn't a beginner hike.
What's a beginner? These folks voted it #3 with their feet, not keyboard.

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Re: First 14ers Advice

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I will be putting Maroon peak down for myself.
Well, to be fair I am doing the bierstadt to Evans traverse first.

All weather permitting of course.
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Trotter wrote:
But doing Longs peak as one of your first 14ers?!?!?! I'd rethink that. That's not a beginner hike
I wasn't planning on doing Longs. I've heard people start Longs at 3AM, and was wondering what typical start times for other peaks are. I wouldn't want to try Longs until I've had more hikes at altitude under my belt.
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Re: First 14ers Advice

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TallGrass wrote:
political animal wrote:
Trotter wrote:But doing Longs peak as one of your first 14ers?!?!?! I'd rethink that. That's not a beginner hike
I concur that Long's Peak isn't a beginner hike.
What's a beginner? These folks voted it #3 with their feet, not keyboard.

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Mt. Bierstadt 1116 Users (12%)
Longs Peak 1026 Users (11%)

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Which is a primary contributor to its higher death rate than other peaks of similar difficulty
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Re: First 14ers Advice

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HikerT wrote:Any recommendations for start times? I've read about 3AM start times for Longs, not sure if that's overkill or not, or if all peaks are subject to the same afternoon storms. I tend to be a fast hiker, but I'm not sure how I'll find the elevation. 10K is the highest elevation I've hiked to.
I generally plan my start times as if all peaks are subject to afternoon storms. When you get a little closer to your planned hike date, use the weather links on this site to get a point forecast for a location close to the summit. For example, the Huron forecast is centered a little south of the summit and at 12,326'. I find these point forecasts to be more useful than forecasts for the nearest town. You can also scroll down and click the Hourly Weather Graphs to get a better idea of what time of day rain/thunder is predicted.

As for recommended start times, my basic method for Class 1/2 standard routes (with little to no snow) is to assume 1,000'/hr elevation gain and subtract from 10:00am. If the route is above treeline for lengthy sections, I might subtract from 9:00am instead of 10:00am.

If you were thinking of Huron's Northwest Slopes (3,500'), my default start time without taking into account forecast or other variables would be 6:30am. This method gets thrown off a little if you've got a lengthy/flat approach like walking up the road from Winfield. I've never walked that part of the road, but figure two miles might add 30-60 minutes, call it 5:45am start. If you consider yourself to be a fast hiker, 1,000'/hr is probably within your capabilities. To be conservative, you could assume 500'/hr for anything above 13,000' or something like that. I think of myself as a little slower than average pace.

I think this planning approach is conservative because I'm usually faster than 1,000'/hr on the standard routes and 10am is usually early enough to avoid afternoon storms. In my mind, it never hurts to start earlier for summertime conditions.
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That may be good logic during monsoon season, but this is not monsoon season. If the forecast is for a bluebird day, odds are you will get one.
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You'll be spending a few days in Snowmass, so that should help with acclimatization.

Trails:
Since you're in the area with a rental car, if you have time, you should hike the Maroon-Snowmass Trail to Crater Lake and as far along Maroon Creek as time permits. It's an iconic Colorado Hike.
The Rim Trail in Snowmass isn't far from the Stonebridge and picks up elevation quickly.
The Vista Trail climbs up a slope at Snowmass before traversing to Buttermilk. It's pretty close too.
Highline/Ridge Trail east of the Snowmass Club climb to a great view.

14ers:
Take Independence Pass instead of I-70 and you'll have many to choose from. The Standard Route on La Plata is closed, but I think anything between Independence Pass and Denver is appropriate for a first 14er. Except Bierstadt - because the hike is so underwhelming.

Start time:
My goal is always to be above treeline before sunrise. There is no better way to start the day than with an alpenglow view unobstructed by trees. So, start times vary.
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Re: First 14ers Advice

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Not exactly a first-timer question, but a matter of inexperience all the same:

What's the backcountry going to be like on 4th of July in CO? Swarmed with visitors?
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Re: First 14ers Advice

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jdorje wrote:That may be good logic during monsoon season, but this is not monsoon season. If the forecast is for a bluebird day, odds are you will get one.
Yes, but allowing for a weather event like the previous poster allows you to slow down your hike if the weather stays stable. Spend as much time on the summit as you like. You can do anything you want if you start early and get no weather.

But if unexpected weather happens, as it often does in the mountains, that early start he recommends gets you up and to the summit before it rolls in.

One way or the other, his strategy will help you time your hikes.
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MattDelSur wrote:Not exactly a first-timer question, but a matter of inexperience all the same:

What's the backcountry going to be like on 4th of July in CO? Swarmed with visitors?
The 14ers will be a bit more crowded than on a typical weekend, but you might not even notice. 13ers will be ignored as always. Roads will be fine in the morning if you're getting to the trailhead at the usual time. Civilized areas will be busy once you're done, however, and don't drop into a mountain town planning to spend the night if you don't have a reservation.
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Also every reservable campsite in the state is probably already booked for the fourth.
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HikerT wrote:
Trotter wrote:
But doing Longs peak as one of your first 14ers?!?!?! I'd rethink that. That's not a beginner hike
I wasn't planning on doing Longs. I've heard people start Longs at 3AM, and was wondering what typical start times for other peaks are. I wouldn't want to try Longs until I've had more hikes at altitude under my belt.
A lot of people do start Longs at 3AM. OTOH, I've done it three times and started around sunrise each time (the third time was in late October and I hiked the last couple of miles of the descent in the dark).

It is good to get an early start, though, as it improves your chances of being off the mountain before the lightning starts.
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