Peak(s):  "Thunder Pyramid"  -  13,932 feet
Pyramid Peak  -  14,018 feet
Date Posted:  08/04/2008
Modified:  07/12/2012
Date Climbed:   08/03/2008
Author:  lordhelmut
 Thunder Pyramid-Pyramid Traverse  


"Thunder Pyramid to Pyramid Pk Traverse
Me, Kiefer, Glen
11 hours 15 minutes
5400 ft elevation gain
1 hour 45 minutes on the traverse

After reading Jason Halladay's account of his adventure on the Thunder Pyramid-Pyramid Traverse last summer, Kiefer and I had been tentatively planning to give this a shot, just didn't know when. Glen gave me a call earlier in the week to see what the plan was, I mentioned something about a couple scrambles in the Never Summers, maybe a Gore Range peak and a traverse in the Indian Peaks. Glen's very next question was "what are your thoughts on the Thunder Pyramid-Pyramid Traverse?" The decision was instantaneous, wasn't a hesitation of doubt that this needed to be done, this weekend. Kiefer gave me a call Wednesday night and said he was in, despite having plans to do it later in August, I guess he just couldn't wait any longer, and after doing it, I don't blame him one bit.

We headed up there saturday afternoon and stayed at my cousin's boyfriends place in Snowmass. We crashed their fancy barbeque with our tattered t-shirts, hiking boots and large appetites, which was a surprise, anytime you can get marinated beef, cheese grits, key lime pie, caeser salad and Arnie Palmers for free is always a plus. After getting freaked out by the possibly gay bread cutter, we made our way for the hot tub w/ a view of Capitol Pk from their porch, then the couch around 10pm. The alarm went off @ 2am, it took about 3 or 4 snoozes to get goin, but we made our way to the trailhead and then the trail by 3:15am.

We decided to approach the traverse by climbing Thunder first, since a downclimb of Thunder would be possibly the worst idea in the history of climbing. To make a long story short and since I have no pictures of the early stages of the traverse due to no light, just hike passed the bent tree on West Maroon Creek trail, reach an opening where you have the reclusive Len Shoemaker Basin up to your left as you are looking South and you should be directly in front of the creek. The crossing was a tad problematic, since there were no logs down and the flow of the water was both high and fast. Glen and I concocted a quasi bridge out of the small logs in the area and made it across with no problems, as did Kiefer a little ways upstream.

To make another long story even shorter, I can't give great beta on how to climb Thunder Pyramid. There is no trail once you leave West Maroon Creek, the bushwacking is pretty easy actually, but once you hit rock, it goes all downhill from there. The White Couloir is pretty easy to find, despite it being mainly melted out this time of year, thats the best way to gauge how well you are staying on "trail".

View of Bells as morning approaches :


Len Shoemaker Basin, by the way, is a pretty cool place. I've never really noticed it when climbing the Bells and you can't see it anywhere along Pyramid's standard route (you can from the NW ridge route, faintly). There were a bunch of flowers up there, Columbines of ranging colors, some of which I'd never seen before, as well as two streams flowing down towards the valley below. Here's a shot of it as we ascended up towards Thunder :


The clouds were a topic of concern for the three of us. As we were ascending, on multiple occasions we brought up how dark and low the clouds were. This was VERY demoralizing, for Kiefer had already climbed Thunder and Glen and I were really dead set on going for the traverse. We came to the conclusion that we'd summit Thunder regardless, since it was still really early and then make a game time decision.

Shot of the Bells and the early morning dark clouds around 12,000 ft on Thunder's west slopes :


I have no idea which mountain or ridgeline this is, but it looked pretty cool :


The demorilzed state of mind had us taking a bunch of breaks, and at the very least, admiring the views and the cloud formations, which were making for some pretty solid alpenglow shots.

Shots of the ascent up to Thunder :

Where the hell is Thunder?

Scoting along the White Couloir around a little over 13,000 ft

Mother Nature must've wanted us do the traverse that day, because as we finally reached the summit around 8:30, the sky cleared and our spirits soared

Glen tackling Thunder and ready for the traverse and whatever else is thrown at us

We signed the register, which had a lot of interesting names on there, but very few in the last 5 years, this is a really seldom climbed peak. After a rest, snack, liquids and some researching, we decided that we could make this traverse, but we'd have to move fast cause the weather in the distance didn't look great, but in our defense, it was very far away and the stuff nearby wasn't threatening.

Group shot

And our next goal

We began the descent down from Thunder to the ridge around 9:15am.

Glen and I descending off Thunder, about to commit to the ridge

The traverse, from Thunder, starts out immediately with some very low, probably even 4+ moves, all of which you have to downclimb. The rock was pretty loose, but manageable, the handholds and footholds were there when you needed them, just approach with caution. To downclimb, we didn't need to traverse to the left or right, we just walked to the edge, looked over and downclimbed right along the crest of the ridge. Once in the first of 4 significant notches along the traverse, we scouted out our route. We traversed left, kind of the same way you traverse left on the Bells Traverse, to avoid all the 5th class stuff encountered when staying along the ridge crest. This made for smooth going, with the occasional traverse across a steep cliff to safer ground.

Here's a shot of Kiefer along the left side of the traverse after the first large tower of the traverse, which we bypassed again, on the left.


We noticed from the summit of Thunder, that the entire middle section of the traverse would be along a flat, wide catwalk and would most likely be the quickest part of the ridge. To reach this section involves a bit of creativity. Right before the catwalk, there is a small notch and a large tower you need to bypass. Heading left or right is simply not an option, you have to climb straight up the middle of it and the three of us agreed this was probably the "crux" of the traverse, but not the toughest moves in terms of climbing, that would come later. Glen went first, climbing the left side of the tower via a mid-5th class chimney. The moves here were probably in the 5.3-5.5 range, it was steep and exposed, but not extremely exposed and the rock was very solid. Glen peaked his head through a notch at the top and saw a feasible route to gain the catwalk, hollered down to me and Kiefer we were good and continued on.

literally jogging across the catwalk

The catwalk was the most fun part of the traverse, cause one, the weather was cooperating at that point, and two, it was simply a cool section and if we had more time, we'd spend a good amount there. The drop off to the left is sheer, the right a little further down, but the ramp is wide enough to make it manageable. Downclimbing off the catwalk to the final notch along the ridge was a tad tricky. The rocks that were loose were now much larger, so we had to take extra care with foot placements and how much weight we'd put into one or the other.

Downclimbing from the catwalk

And looking back on our progress, which was very stellar up to this point

On the summit of Thunder, we agreed to not take one break, and only stop traversing for water, food or a quick picture. We knew weather was going to reach the basin at some point, but we also knew that if we got done the traverse in under 2 hours, we'd beat the rain and whatever else mother nature had in mind.

Once we downclimbed from the catwalk and reached our final large towers and notch along the ridge, we decided bypassing this section to the right was our best option. This involved a lot of scaling along an edge with significant cliff drops below us, kind of like the one along Pyramid's standard route, only much longer. The weather was beginning to get a little too close for comfort and we all knew we had to keep moving at a decent pace to make for a reasonably safe descent off Pyramid. As we finished traversing around the final tower, we reached a point where the only way to go was up through loose scree and boulders. We gained the ridge crest and were presented with the last tough section of the route, this traverse just wasn't going to let us off that easily. Adrenaline was keeping our feet moving and we reached the base of the last crux section.

Here are some shots of the last couple pitches to reach Pyramid's summit ridge

Kiefer took this excellent shot of Glen and I beginning the climb up to the summit ridge. This part you see here was not the hardest move, but was very steep and exposed, it was 5th class, but I can't really tell you an exact rating, my blood was pumping and mind too focused to remember anything vividly.


A closer look at the moves involved and the steepness of the face, Kiefer really did a good job with the camera with this one

This was the last pitch to reach the summit ridge, the route was nearly vertical and you had to use footholds on both sides of the narrow chimney to lift your weight up, this was an exciting moment, both due to the moves we were making and the realization that one this section was over, the traverse would be a success


By the way, I have no idea how Jason Halladay downclimbed this. While I should have been focusing on my foot and handholds, I couldn't help but think in sheer amazement how someone could find a way down this thing. It almost felt like it was at a 95 degree angle.

At 11am, we reached the summit of Pyramid, an hour and 45 minutes after leaving Thunder, we all 3 let out a roar of accomplishment and appreciated the moment, but thats all it was, one quick moment. Here was our motivation to get down......


The summit of Pyramid went as follows. All 3 of us reached the summit at about the same time, I pulled out the register, signed all 3 names, left a quick description, put the paper back, took a swig of gatorade and headed straight down the standard route of Pyramid.

Kiefer and Glen on Pyramid with traverse in back

We lucked out with the weather big time. It hailed on us on the first couple hundred feet of the downclimb off Pyramid, but our boots gripped well to the rock. As the hail subsided, thunder was heard in the distance, but it never threatened us and somehow stuck to the basin north of us and disapeared about 15 minutes later. We reached the saddle of the NE ridge and finally we able to enjoy our one year long dream of successfully completing the Thunder Pyramid-Pyramid Traverse. To be perfectly honest, going into it, I was more worried about a route than I've ever been before. The only write up on it we'd seen was from a guy who consistenly leads 5.10 trad on some serious routes throughout the country and throw in its reputation of being seriously exposed and loose just enhanced our doubts. I figured we'd get up there, give it a look and say maybe in the next life, but that would prove not to be the case. Next stop is a 10 day trip through the Weminuche Wilderness with the same great climbing companions, pretty pumped to say the least....

Some notes on the traverse :

- To start, I wouldn't recomend this traverse to anyone new to loose rock or new to climbing in general. This route demands a lot of methodical patience, testing every single foot and handhold on the downclimbs and upclimbs wouldn't be a bad idea and being comfortable with creative moves on exposed, low to mid 5th class rock faces would be plus.

- There are surprisingly a few solid bail points along the traverse, 1 or 2 of which looked more appealing than the downclimb off Thunder. They are all loose gullies of scree, but they seem to not cliff out and aren't too steep. All the bail points are at each of the large notches along the traverse. Bailing to the east side is not recommended.

- Since this is a 14er based website, I'll compare this traverse to one of the 4 "great" ones. Its significantly tougher, more exposed, looser and longer than the Bells. Its similar in the sense that you can bypass tougher stuff on the left and right, but there are times when this is not possible and a 5th class, steep upclimb is required. From experience, I thought the Little Bear-Blanca traverse was scarier and tougher for a number of reasons, but not by much. There are sections of LB-Blanca where an exposed knife edge section or a scale along an absurdly exposed tower is unavoidable. On this one, bypassing tougher sections is usually an option, but where they aren't, single moves are tougher, looser and more exposed than any section of LB-Blanca. I think the main reason for this is because there isn't much written up about the Pyramid Traverse, which was our main appeal to it. For anyone who has done Snowmass-Hagerman traverse, Pyramid is a lot harder and exposed.

- Unless you are a very fast climber with uncany route finding abilities, do not start this climb much later than 3am. This is mainly due to the ascent of Thunder, which is tedious to say the least, that was the part that took up the most time at the start of the day. And don't climb with anymore than a group of 3, so don't plan a 14er summer outing here, it would probably end poorly for a number of people.

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 Comments or Questions

Nice job
02/05/2011 00:22
And great photos! I have to get up there one of these days.


11/30/2010 17:28
So you're saying I should cancel that Pyramid/Thunder Pyramid traverse summer gathering in a few weeks?


08/05/2008 00:40
Excellent trip report, Brian. I‘ve been talking with Furthermore on this site about doing this traverse this year, and this is exactly what I need! Let‘s do something cool soon!!


08/05/2008 01:30
That looks bad@ss...nice work fellas


Way to Go!!!
01/19/2011 03:38
Looking at both that traverse from Pyramid's summit on Saturday, then the clouds over the Bells Sunday morning around 11ish, I am so stoked that it went this well. You guys really outdid yourselves, almost making it look easy. Your fate was on my mind all day until Kiefer called me.
I guess someone has to go out and do this stuff... Congrats on something extraordinary.


Airy, Scary Stuff
08/05/2008 02:02
and your final pitch to the summit is impressive work. Congrats on safely returning to earth.


10/22/2008 10:35
Brian, I can‘t really say or add anything to this!
Beautiful write up with perfect descript!
You and Glen are awesome climbers and I think we three make a great combo (even without beer)! Bring on the Weminuche!
A sweet-ass day Brian! Definately one for the books.
Matt- Thanks a bunch! Too bad we missed each other in Aspen. I should have looked for your car at the parking lot. How‘d the Bells go by the way?


08/05/2008 02:19
Tell keifer thanks for the duck tape for my shin. i appreciate you guys taking an extra minute to help my gimpy ass route find.


Great Job You Guys
08/05/2008 03:29
Glad this one worked out for you. Good Luck in the Weminuche, I‘ll look forward to hearing all about it.


05/02/2011 14:23
You just don‘t let up huh. Let me know when you guys want to get out again.


great job!
08/05/2008 13:24
you guys are stepping it up bigtime and doing it in style!


Thanks for the comments
08/05/2008 14:54
at the risk of thanking everyone individually, thanks to all. It was fun exploring the relatively unknown and coming out the other side in one piece. This is definately a ridge you don‘t want to take lightly, but one that needs some attention for its a fun one for sure. Its got a little bit of everything.


08/05/2008 15:17
This trip was great, good job guys. oh and I think I saw a ”Beir” up their.


Nice job guys
08/05/2008 16:54
Looks like going from Thunder Pyramid to Pyramid is definately the way to go, not the other way around. You guys have a strong team - best of luck in the Weminuche!

Chicago Transplant

08/05/2008 20:40
Looks like it was a fun day, great photos and description. I‘m glad you were able to get this all in, the weather on Indy at noon had me worried about you guys.

Jason Halladay

Dig it
08/06/2008 04:10
Nice photos and report fellas. Well done! I would agree that going from Thunder to Pyramid is the better way to do that traverse. If I recall correctly, you have to climb that last difficult section up to the summit too if you take the NW ridge route up Pyramid. It‘s definitely an interesting section.
Have a great time in the Weminuche.


Way to go
08/06/2008 18:14
Although my experience level is a at least a couple years away from trying something like this, thanks for taking the time to find it, do it and share it.


08/06/2008 19:18
Glen - yeah, definately a ”Beir” with a hoard of Russians chasing it

Sarah - thats definately the way, downclimbing from Pyramid would be problematic for your average human being. We will certainly have a good time in the San Juans

Mike - running from the weather is no fun, especially when you have to get higher to eventually get down.

Jason - If I recall, you are right, the NW Ridge does hook up at some point, I vaguely remember when I did it, I remember seeing that big ”hole” in the route you had to climb over just below the summit ridge. Nevertheless, kudos to you guys for downclimbing that traverse, it would have taken us a lot longer if we did it the other way.

Patinator - thanks man, its something to shoot for.

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