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Re: Mexico 13er list!

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And just crossed Telapon off that list. (Happy cinco de mayo!).

But there was a plaque at the top stating that Telapon is the 12th highest mountain out of 14 above 4000m (13,123ft) in Mexico. Don't know which additional two they are counting. So I'll stick with my list of 12 for now.

(Note: There are rumors about robberies near the trailhead on the south side. So maybe better not hike alone. We didn't see a single person on the whole trail).
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Re: Mexico 13er list!

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mtnkub wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 3:28 pm But there was a plaque at the top stating that Telapon is the 12th highest mountain out of 14 above 4000m (13,123ft) in Mexico. Don't know which additional two they are counting. So I'll stick with my list of 12 for now.
By Colorado standards at least, La Cabeza and Los Pies on Izta would be considered separate peaks. That wouldn't make Teapon 12 though.

Ajusco is sometimes listed over 4000 meters, so maybe that one is counted? The most recent maps I can see say 3986 (3937 and 3930 are for the lower summit).
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Re: Mexico 13er list!

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Scott P wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 11:13 pm
mtnkub wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 3:28 pm But there was a plaque at the top stating that Telapon is the 12th highest mountain out of 14 above 4000m (13,123ft) in Mexico. Don't know which additional two they are counting. So I'll stick with my list of 12 for now.
By Colorado standards at least, La Cabeza and Los Pies on Izta would be considered separate peaks. That wouldn't make Teapon 12 though.

Ajusco is sometimes listed over 4000 meters, so maybe that one is counted? The most recent maps I can see say 3986 (3937 and 3930 are for the lower summit).
Oh, yes. Of the two additional mountains, one would have to be lower than Telapon. Other than Ajusco (which is not 4000m) this could be Cerro Tehuistle (13,140ft). That one is just far enough from the main Itza chain, but should have well below 300ft prominence. Then, if there is only one additional mountain higher than Telapon, that would have to be Pico Humboldt or Cerro Colorado (as with the Itza sub-peaks, you'd have to add two). [Edit: Wait, that's all wrong! Telapon is #10 on my list, meaning two higher ones to move it to #12. So this could indeed be cabeza+pies on Izta. Still sticking with my list of 11, but with Ajusco added as a maybe 13er]

So i guess i'll stick with my list. But wait, with 3986 m, this would add Ajusco at least to the 13er list (even if not to the 4000m list). Where did you see this new elevation listed?
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Re: Mexico 13er list!

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mtnkub wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 8:16 amSo i guess i'll stick with my list. But wait, with 3986 m, this would add Ajusco at least to the 13er list (even if not to the 4000m list). Where did you see this new elevation listed?
I believe some more recent sources and recent maps use this figure and you can find several online:

https://www.google.com/search?q=ajusco+ ... e&ie=UTF-8

If I remember right, the TPC map also uses this elevation.

Summitpost says the reason for the discrepancy is because 3930 meters is for the slightly lower summit:

https://www.summitpost.org/ajusco/152054

I don't know if that's true since the lower summit seems to be under 3930 meters.

For sure, none of the higher peaks in Mexico have elevations that don't have numerous differing elevations that can be found using various maps and sources. If you want to be sure of hitting all of the 13ers in Mexico or even the 4000ers, it wouldn't hurt to hit Ajusco just in case. It's not like it's a hard peak to get to.

Caltopo seems to currently have the best and most detailed maps of all of those peaks, but unfortunately they don't give spot elevations for peaks (in Mexico). Neither do the latest topo maps from DETENAL (Mexico's version of the USGS). Only some large scale regional, district, and state maps give spot elevations. ArcGIS and Open Topo both do, but their elevations never match any other mapped ones and never or seldom match each other (that I know of). I assume that the spot elevations are interpolated?
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Re: Mexico 13er list!

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Online, i only found summit post and two you tube videos as reference for Ajusco being above 13,000ft. (And on gaia maps, the lower summit is 3830m, not 3930m).
But yes, Ajusco seems like a worthwhile hike and certainly super easy to get to.
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Re: Mexico 13er list!

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What resources do you guys use for beta on these peaks? The big ones like Orizaba are trivial, others I'm not sure. Does summitpost suffice for all of them? Have you all been using guides?
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