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False hypothermia rescue charges

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:59 pm
by Bombay2Boulder
So this happened on Denali. Pretty wild events.
https://www.ktoo.org/2021/11/10/federal ... t-attempt/

Re: False hypothermia rescue charges

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:06 pm
by speth
Anything for a check mark or list.

Re: False hypothermia rescue charges

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:31 am
by Salient
Why would he do this... it's such a damn irrational, lazy and pointless move. Man, gotta really stick it to the goverrnment by risking the safety of trained pilots I'm a true rebel 🤡🤡

Re: False hypothermia rescue charges

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:28 am
by I Man
This is to be expected in today's world of big mountains, especially on a mountain so popular as Denali. I have seen some pretty ridiculous things out there.

Re: False hypothermia rescue charges

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:00 pm
by peter303
I heard an RMNP accident analysis from their climbing rangers about a decade ago at REI. They sometimes get phone calls asking for helicopter rescues that the rangers have to decide whether are necessary or not. Some adamant callers will demand such because the park was paid by their taxes.

Re: False hypothermia rescue charges

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:30 pm
by justiner
Gives that weird press release the NPS sent out a lot more understandable

Re: False hypothermia rescue charges

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:31 pm
by SchralpTheGnar
I can’t believe someone did something stupid and lied about it.

Re: False hypothermia rescue charges

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 9:30 am
by curt86iroc
This happens in CO too. there are several instances where people have lied about being injured/lost because their dog was hurt...and they knew SAR wouldn't come only for a dog.

Re: False hypothermia rescue charges

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:10 am
by 434stonemill
A few other articles from NYT in the past year on stupid people doing stupid things, its effects on SAR resources and the debate on who should pay.
(These links should allow viewing even if you do not have any NYT subscription)


Treasure Hunter Who Got Lost in Yellowstone Must Repay Cost of Rescue

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/11/us/t ... =url-share

You Got Lost and Had to Be Rescued. Should You Pay?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/us/r ... =url-share

Pandemic Wilderness Explorers Are Straining Search and Rescue

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/07/us/c ... =url-share

Re: False hypothermia rescue charges

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:24 pm
by Terminally_Chill
As someone that comes from many generations of first responders in Colorado and has seen the effect that the intense population growth here in CO has had on the public land that my ancestors considered sacred, I'm just going to say it: hikers, climbers, base jumpers, etc. should have to pay for search and rescue. If you don't purchase hunting, fishing, or recreational vehicle permits (which go towards funding volunteer SAR in much of the west) you shouldn't be able to activate the search and rescue system for free.

Re: False hypothermia rescue charges

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:42 pm
by XterraRob
It should become customary to tip your rescuers. I had to get rescued by NASA SAR back in '19 because my oxygen supply ran low at about 40,200ft on Olympus Mons. They showed up, put me in a pod, and shot me back to Earth. I wasn't charged since I didn't need to be MEDEVAC'd back to Earth, but I did tip them a couple hundos for saving my life.

These people put themselves in harm's way, selflessly, to save you, or your dog that got stepped on by a Moose during a nature walk. They deserve endless gratitude for the amount of s**t they have to respond to.

Re: False hypothermia rescue charges

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 8:29 pm
by Salient
XterraRob wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 5:42 pm It should become customary to tip your rescuers. I had to get rescued by NASA SAR back in '19 because my oxygen supply ran low at about 40,200ft on Olympus Mons. They showed up, put me in a pod, and shot me back to Earth. I wasn't charged since I didn't need to be MEDEVAC'd back to Earth, but I did tip them a couple hundos for saving my life.

These people put themselves in harm's way, selflessly, to save you, or your dog that got stepped on by a Moose during a nature walk. They deserve endless gratitude for the amount of s**t they have to respond to.
So you just got back to Earth in 2020 then