Mt Whitney fatality early November

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Re: Mt Whitney fatality early November

Post by mtn_nut » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:21 pm

SephTR wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:39 pm
Mtnman200 wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:29 pm
SephTR wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:14 pm
Noob
How very compassionate of you. Do you consider someone with only 12 14er ascents to be a noob? I certainly do.
I’ll have you know I’m a Sierra Nevada hiker
Wow. So that fixes everything. Someone died and you're making judgments on them and then trying to justify it with your experience as a "Sierra Nevada hiker". You're a giant pile of shït.
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Re: Mt Whitney fatality early November

Post by Barnold41 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:09 pm

SephTR wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:39 pm
I’ll have you know I’m a Sierra Nevada hiker
Thanks for living there, and not here 8)
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Re: Mt Whitney fatality early November

Post by Scott P » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:21 pm

SephTR wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:39 pm
I’ll have you know I’m a Sierra Nevada hiker
Noob.
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Re: Mt Whitney fatality early November

Post by blazintoes » Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:50 am

[quote=nyker post_id=729496 time=1606712223 user_id=7454]
Such a shame to hear about this.

I won't speculate on the how/what/why's but what I can say is even on the standard Whitney Main Trail, if conditions are cold, snowy and/or dark it can be very disorienting even for someone experienced in the mountains.
From what I understand she was just going for an afternoon quick day hike, not a summit climb and slipped and fell not that far out from the Portal and was apparently just off the trail.
Most people expecting to be on a short ~1hr hike probably won't be bringing a pack filled with the normal layers and additional gear you'd bring for a lengthy summit climb or late Autumn ascent.

I've been on the rock there in many different weather scenarios and when it's iced over, the ice is often not evident and its easy to slip even on route, if you stray off route even a few feet
you're likely to encounter cliff bands with 50-100ft or more drops. This area is often at a transition point where ice starts where even if you brought microspikes you might not put them on yet.
Accidents happen to the best of us and they usually begin with a simple slip or trip which then isn't stopped. I'd say 100% of us have had seemingly innocent "trips" or "slips" in the mountains at some point.

The fact that she survived two nights out before succumbing, after falling and very possibly seriously injured and scared, with minimal food and water, wearing summer clothes in below freezing temps / negative windchill in an approaching storm
tells me she was a tough determined person.

RIP Cassandra. To her friends and family, our thoughts are with you.
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This was the perfect thing to say. Thank you.
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Re: Mt Whitney fatality early November

Post by SephTR » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:47 am

Scott P wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:21 pm
SephTR wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:39 pm
I’ll have you know I’m a Sierra Nevada hiker
Noob.

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Re: Mt Whitney fatality early November

Post by timisimaginary » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:21 pm

SephTR wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:47 am
Scott P wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:21 pm
SephTR wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:39 pm
I’ll have you know I’m a Sierra Nevada hiker
Noob.

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Re: Mt Whitney fatality early November

Post by angry » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:31 pm

SephTR wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:47 am

Outdated. My strength doubles every day.
You asked about Shasta in Jan and wrote “I'm not an expert on winter mountains”. I’m curious what incredible feats of strength have made you an expert sierra nevada hiker in less than a year?
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Re: Mt Whitney fatality early November

Post by Mtnman200 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:16 pm

SephTR wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:47 am
Scott P wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:21 pm
SephTR wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:39 pm
I’ll have you know I’m a Sierra Nevada hiker
Noob.

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Re: Mt Whitney fatality early November

Post by Wildernessjane » Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:58 pm

angry wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:31 pm
SephTR wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:47 am

Outdated. My strength doubles every day.
You asked about Shasta in Jan and wrote “I'm not an expert on winter mountains”. I’m curious what incredible feats of strength have made you an expert sierra nevada hiker in less than a year?
I remember that thread. He was looking for a way to do Shasta without having to use any snow gear. It was mind-boggling to me. Who would prefer scree over a snow route? Someone who doesn’t know any better, that’s who.
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Re: Mt Whitney fatality early November

Post by teamdonkey » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:17 pm

Wildernessjane wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:58 pm
angry wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:31 pm
SephTR wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:47 am

Outdated. My strength doubles every day.
You asked about Shasta in Jan and wrote “I'm not an expert on winter mountains”. I’m curious what incredible feats of strength have made you an expert sierra nevada hiker in less than a year?
I remember that thread. He was looking for a way to do Shasta without having to use any snow gear. It was mind-boggling to me. Who would prefer scree over a snow route? Someone who doesn’t know any better, that’s who.
But his strength doubles every day, which by my calculations means 310 days later he is 2,085,924,839,766,510,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times stronger now.
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Re: Mt Whitney fatality early November

Post by Scott P » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:22 pm

teamdonkey wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:17 pm
But his strength doubles every day, which by my calculations means 310 days later he is 2,085,924,839,766,510,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times stronger now.
In a way, he's telling the truth. Zero doubled that many times is still zero.
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Re: Mt Whitney fatality early November

Post by Barnold41 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:01 pm

SephTR wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:47 am
Outdated. My strength doubles every day.
Who tf says stuff like that :lol:

Noob. That's who. Dude been smokin' too much of that NorCal good good.
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