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Re: Conundrum Couloir

Post by cottonmountaineering » Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:50 pm

k_fergie wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:46 pm
cottonmountaineering wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:40 pm
D1– Easy low angled terrain such as beginner run at ski resort.

D4 – Similar to an easier "Expert" run at a resort. Slope angles usually around 30 degrees.

D5 – Similar to an "Expert" run at a resort, steeper (35 degree range) or more terrain obstacles than previous rating.
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D12 Conundrum Couloir
At least it doesn't dog leg. There's a chance he'll be able to just slide down the whole thing without getting hurt
if he mess up a turn on a 50 degree slope, he gonna be goin about 60mph down it.
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Re: Conundrum Couloir

Post by k_fergie » Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:02 pm

cottonmountaineering wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:50 pm
k_fergie wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:46 pm
cottonmountaineering wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:40 pm
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At least it doesn't dog leg. There's a chance he'll be able to just slide down the whole thing without getting hurt
if he mess up a turn on a 50 degree slope, he gonna be goin about 60mph down it.
Hence the word choice of chance :wink:
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Re: Conundrum Couloir

Post by susanjoypaul » Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:57 am

Sometime around 2008, I was headed up Castle when I saw a couple of guys skiing Conundrum Couloir. I stopped to watch - I couldn't believe how fast they were moving. When they hit the bottom, I realized they weren't skiing; they were falling. My buddy and I hiked out and found some people with an ATV. We told them what happened and they went for help. From what I recall, we found out later that one of the guys who had fallen walked out with help but the other guy had to be carried out. I want to say they were on this forum, because they asked my friend for the pictures he'd taken of them falling. I can't remember all the details. If they're still on here, they could probably tell you how steep that thing is. I've never climbed it.
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Re: Conundrum Couloir

Post by CaptCO » Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:09 am

susanjoypaul wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 5:57 am
Sometime around 2008, I was headed up Castle when I saw a couple of guys skiing Conundrum Couloir. I stopped to watch - I couldn't believe how fast they were moving. When they hit the bottom, I realized they weren't skiing; they were falling. My buddy and I hiked out and found some people with an ATV. We told them what happened and they went for help. From what I recall, we found out later that one of the guys who had fallen walked out with help but the other guy had to be carried out. I want to say they were on this forum, because they asked my friend for the pictures he'd taken of them falling. I can't remember all the details. If they're still on here, they could probably tell you how steep that thing is. I've never climbed it.
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Re: Conundrum Couloir

Post by susanjoypaul » Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:40 am

CaptCO wrote:
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I’m scared... in other words POWDER DAY BABY!
You go, boy.
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Re: Conundrum Couloir

Post by CaptCO » Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:44 am

susanjoypaul wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:40 am
CaptCO wrote:
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I’m scared... in other words POWDER DAY BABY!
You go, boy.
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Re: Conundrum Couloir

Post by susanjoypaul » Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:16 am

All kidding aside, anyone who's been doing this awhile has lost friends in the mountains. And we all wish we'd said something. Sometimes the loss was due to negligence, or arrogance, or bad decision making. Sometimes it was purely an accident. But regardless of why those people were injured or killed, everyone around them feels guilty - as if we could have prevented it somehow. So understand where this is coming from. No one's trying to tell you what to do. We've just been here before and we're doing our best to prevent another bad outcome.
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Re: Conundrum Couloir

Post by lodgling » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:44 am

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Re: Conundrum Couloir

Post by docinco » Sat Mar 27, 2021 10:05 am

d_baker wrote:
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However, if you prefer some snark from your biggest fanboy, let me know because I am fully loaded and ready. Lol
nope, right now he's looking for his misplaced humility. look, squirrel!
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Re: Conundrum Couloir

Post by bergsteigen » Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:02 am

susanjoypaul wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 7:16 am
All kidding aside, anyone who's been doing this awhile has lost friends in the mountains. And we all wish we'd said something. Sometimes the loss was due to negligence, or arrogance, or bad decision making. Sometimes it was purely an accident. But regardless of why those people were injured or killed, everyone around them feels guilty - as if we could have prevented it somehow. So understand where this is coming from. No one's trying to tell you what to do. We've just been here before and we're doing our best to prevent another bad outcome.
I’ve said something, and lost friends. Not sorry I said something. Rather have them alive and pissed at me, than not.

Conundrum Couloir is a great ski - *IF* snow conditions, weather, skills, mental preparedness and partners line up. If these don’t, you’re gonna have a bad day. Period.

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Re: Conundrum Couloir

Post by aholle88 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:12 pm

bergsteigen wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 11:02 am
Patience is the hardest part of ski mountaineering.
This. When the big lines are “safe”, they aren’t always fun. When the big lines have good snow, they aren’t typically safe. Then you get those rare days when safe good snow conditions line up on your big objective, and those are the days you remember forever. You might get about one, maybe two of them a year, if you’re lucky. Set your expectations low, pay close attention to weather, snowpack, etc. Choose terrain, aspects wisely based on that. With enough trial/error, you eventually start getting it right. But it’s not a matter of progressing fast with skills that gets you there, in fact, that has very little to do with it. Plenty of amazing skiers/riders out there who rarely get to have those perfect days in the mountains.
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Re: Conundrum Couloir

Post by CaptCO » Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:04 pm

It’s popping off this morning! And I’m being safe at the resort! Holla if at ❤️Land
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