Are you saying your son is preventing you from climbing 5.13?Scott P wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:03 pmWhy would it be a joke? Everyone can set their own goals. Personally I don't like leading at my following level because I weigh 270 and am afraid of launching the belayer, or worse. Usually I climb with my son. He's half my weight. When he's leading we climb at a higher level than when I am leading. There aren't many climbers out there as big as I am or that I want to belay me on a big lead fall (which isn't their fault-if someone was beefy, I'd reconsider). I had a bad fall once and it wasn't fun. I've also had falls where I launched the belayer (100 or more lbs lighter) in the air. I don't like leading hard stuff (or at least hard for me) with you scrawny folk belaying me. Of course that's one of my reasons, but someone else might have a different reason. Everyone can set their own goals. If someone wants to lead 5.8 and climb 5.13, that's between you and your partners.
I understand we can all set our own goals but climbing 5.13 and wanting to lead 5.8 makes absolutely 0 sense, no matter how you slice it up. Unless by "5.8" he means he wants to lead trad. Then that's different and a legit goal.
Being able to crimp and move on 5.13 terrain and not lead 5.8 is definitely a gym/plastic age thing for sure, without trying to throw this poor dude too under the bus that is.