Joe Grant's Tour de 14er

[pbakwin]

Probably Fri. Rats, I have to take my cat to the vet on Fri. Anyway, that would make it 31 days and change!

[Stevo]

I wonder if he'll do G&T from Loveland Pass, or go around to Steven's Gulch.

[justiner]

or via... Montezuma!

[Stevo]

or via... Montezuma!

Nice!!

Then Argentine Pass back over? How's that on a bike?

[justiner]

The east side of Argentine is fine on a bike - it's just a rough, albeit steep 4wd road. Getting to Argentine though would mean basically sumitting Edwards, then going down to the saddle of Edwards and Argentine, all of which is pretty much off trail.

...could just take the standard trail down? Is it open to bikes? the TH picket at the summer TH should state that.

[waolsen]

So are we to assume that he climbed Bross and just doesn't want to publicize it? After seeing the BS that Jurek had to deal with at the end of his AT record it's probably not worth bringing attention to trespassing. If he didn't hit Bross than no FKT, right? Justiner, I assume you tagged it. I'm hoping/betting he did bag it.

I'm not trying to create controversy and hesitated even posting this. It's been awesome to follow his journey.

[the toninator]

No, if it's trespassing it should be excluded.

[justiner]

It's an interesting choice not to summit Bross (or at least say he did not summit...). I "officially" ascended to the highest, legal point you can get to Bross, before you would go over the private property line, as I could best figure out by my GPS + map to "count" Bross. That point was something Bill proposed about as the, "legal summit" (I believe) There's a cairn/windscreen when I was up there, marking the point. You can do your own research to see where the private property line supposedly is.

I did it this way because those are the rules I gave myself, before doing my challenge:

Bross is the odd-mountain out, as the summit is on private land that is not officially accessible to the public – it’s perfectly fine for this Challenge to ascend to the highest, legal height you are allowed to.There is no real physical difficulty after the private property line, that a Challenger will miss. Bross is Bross.

http://longranger.justinsimoni.com/tour14er/rules/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My idea was that getting as high as possible - and certainly higher than 14,000' was a good compromise between summiting but breaking the law (which is also against my rules) and skipping it all together *shrugs*. The route is different though, if you go for Bross - everyone loves that descent when making a loop, right?!

To be fair, Joe never said he was following my rules, or going after my "record" - just that he was doing a similar challenge, so it's up to him on what he does, and how he does it.

Joe has stated that,

Adhering to the “do it yourself” bikepacking racing ethic, I will receive no outside assistance, relying only on small towns for resupply. I will employ light and fast tactics and carry a minimal amount of gear. The objective of the trip is to inspire people to pursue local adventures under their own power.

http://alpine-works.com/2016/07/the-tour-de-14ers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And I believe he's succeeding in that

[FireOnTheMountain]

I mean, he rode his bike on the Durango-Silverton train track, for goodness sake! What the...?!

That is an interesting dichotomy, trespassing RR right of way. I couldn't care one way or the other though, go Joe.

[ezabielski]

So are we to assume that he climbed Bross and just doesn't want to publicize it?

His GPS track doesn't show him being on the mountain at all. So either he left his GPS on Lincoln, went out and back to Bross, picked it up again and descended, or he just didn't do it.

[waolsen]

Joe has stated that,

Adhering to the “do it yourself” bikepacking racing ethic, I will receive no outside assistance, relying only on small towns for resupply. I will employ light and fast tactics and carry a minimal amount of gear. The objective of the trip is to inspire people to pursue local adventures under their own power.

http://alpine-works.com/2016/07/the-tour-de-14ers/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And I believe he's succeeding in that [/quote]

I agree! You have inspired me as well. I'm blown away by the logistics and commitment of this project.

[Stevo]

So are we to assume that he climbed Bross and just doesn't want to publicize it?

His GPS track doesn't show him being on the mountain at all. So either he left his GPS on Lincoln, went out and back to Bross, picked it up again and descended, or he just didn't do it.

Looking at his times I wouldn't think this happened. But he is incredibly fast!