Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby DaveSwink » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:46 pm

Oh God, now I am really hoping I am not a Trench Poacher! :oops:
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby highpilgrim » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:50 pm

Trench poachers: someone using an established broken trail to set a fast ascent as if they broke trail themselves...bragging made possible by someone else who did the real work.
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby highpilgrim » Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:50 pm

Oops. Double post.
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby d_baker » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:04 pm

I don't think it's all that bad to be a trench poacher, but in turn be a team player and put in your time in the trenches. Also, if you do poach, don't brag about "how fast" you are when the sweat of another gave you your speed.

Another grievance:
-posers
&
tools.
And that 14,000' is so high. 13,000' feels sooo much better. ;)
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby planet54 » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:10 pm

People that tell me " well, that's what the guidebook says." I swear those people would walk off a cliff if Roach told them to do it.
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby DaveSwink » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:21 pm

[quote="d_baker"]Another grievance:
-posers
&
tools.[/quote]

OK, I got this one on my own. 8)
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby Matt » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:54 pm

d_baker wrote:First of all, the Festivus episode has got to be one of the best from the Seinfeld days!

Agreed.

-technology that allows users to post on the forum from the TH and summits

Technology isn't the problem--it's the choice to actually do this kind of thing :roll:

trench poachers that in turn brag about their times and claim to be alpinists

This kind of thing is beyond lame. "I'm faster than you noobs, so go ahead. I'll catch up!"

Trip Reports:
After reading a spectacular trip report about a difficult or rewarding day, some people insist on making comments that add nothing to the discussion besides letting everyone else know that they've been there/done that already. "Yeah, well when we were up there, it was so crazy! You're lucky to have had such stellar conditions."
Freaking narcissists.

People who start a thread just to announce that they are about to post a TR.
Freaking narcissists.

Also, what's with people whose whole TR is hosted somewhere else, especially on their own site? I never read reports that consist of a couple pics and a link elsewhere.

Photoshop geeks who manipulate their pictures so much that "photography" isn't really the proper term any more. It may be "art," but skill with a camera and a good eye have less to do with Disneyland images of 14ers than hours spent clicking a mouse then looking at yourself in the mirror when people praise this crap.
Freaking narcissists.

I guess I just have plenty of grievances with narcissists.
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby I fall a lot » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:02 pm

-'Epic'
-'Pow'
-'Epic Pow'
-'Epic Pow Brah'

-Election year

-Wannabe Thomas Kincaid pictures
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby Bean » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:21 pm

fleetmack wrote:1) cyclists running red lights (i am a HUGE share the road advocate, but 99% of cyclists i see seem to think it means "share the road with me, then i can act however i want while on the road"... it works both ways)

Along these lines, I can't stand all those outlaw motorists. Failing to come to complete stops at stop signs, not stopping at the stop bars at lights, speeding, failing to signal. Have you spent much time riding around a city? Try it for a year and tell me it's practical to come to a complete stop at every sign. The law is broken.

I bike just about everywhere (mountains excepted), don't come to a complete stop at most stop signs, yet on a daily basis a car will pass me through a stop sign, its slowest speed still faster than I'm rolling through at. Crack down on the motorists.
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby gdthomas » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:32 pm

The "IMO" disclaimer has long since run its course.
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby EZSide » Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:48 pm

silverlynx wrote:I'm already looking forward to the Feats of Strength. :D


OK !! Aaarrrrgggg!!
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Re: Early Festivus Thread - The Airing Of Grievances

Postby Dave B » Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:36 pm

Matt wrote:Photoshop geeks who manipulate their pictures so much that "photography" isn't really the proper term any more. It may be "art," but skill with a camera and a good eye have less to do with Disneyland images of 14ers than hours spent clicking a mouse then looking at yourself in the mirror when people praise this crap.
Freaking narcissists.


What? You don't like your retinas burned by oversaturated HDR(esque) photos?

What are you, a narcissist?

It's like free LASIK
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