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Google Maps on 14ers.com

Post by BillMiddlebrook »

Due to Google's recent pricing model change, I will be limiting access to some of the Google maps on 14ers.com.

I've been monitoring the usage of Google Maps since their pricing change and at this rate, I'll be paying Google a couple of thousand bucks a month for access to the maps API. No thanks. In July alone, there have been nearly 1 million Google Map api requests from 14ers.com.

Individual route description Google Maps will still be open to non-registered users but the following sections will now be limited to registered users:
1) Route list for a peak/peak group
2) Route page - profile tab
3) Peak page - Google Map tab

Sorry!
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Post by James Dziezynski »

I've been reading about the same issue at GPS Visualizer - kind of lame to see Google doing a "little bit of evil" -

Good call, though, Bill - seems like the best idea given the large traffic numbers.
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Post by Monster5 »

I have a brand-new, novel, never before considered-or discussed, excellent idea on how to pay for this!

Start selling 13ers.com bumper stickers again! And then perhaps we can talk about selling advertising space. Oh, and what about tiered subscription plans? Pay-per-post? We can make 14ers.com a cash cow!
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Re: Google Maps on 14ers.com

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Maybe it's time to consider CalTopo? AccuTerra? OpenStreetMap (OpenCycle)? USFS?
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pmeadco wrote:Maybe it's time to consider CalTopo?
+1

I do all of my back-country planning using CalTopo. All of it.
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$5/year membership
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Thanks, Bill, for keeping the Google Maps options around for registered users. The Google Maps (and layers) tabs are one of my favorite features on this site. In my naivete I had no idea they were so expensive to you--and I'm sure my latest REI purchase (in which I used your pass-through link) did little to help cover the cost.
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Post by mtn_nut »

Peakbagger also got rid of google maps on its website due to costs.

Go with Caltopo and ArcGIS world topo. Both are used by peakbagger and look good within the USA
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I'm probably responsible for several hundred map hits everyday! It's my favorite interface to dig down into info on the 13ers. Would it help to use another map layer (esriTopo?), as the default setting in order to keep the google map loads down?

Or maybe a user setting where you select the default map you want to view? Then if someone really wants a Google layer than can select it as default.
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I should have mentioned that the most important map page on the site - the Google map on each route description - will remain open to all users.

I’d hate to have to convert the current mapping interface with another API but if Google continues to put the screws to us, I may have to make more changes. Gross
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Re: Google Maps on 14ers.com

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HikerGuy wrote:Would it help to use another map layer (esriTopo?), as the default setting in order to keep the google map loads down?
It may. I have to do a bit of research on how they count stuff. If it’s by map tile, then a different default map layer might help.
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Post by glenmiz »

Bill, I really appreciate what you do (most of it behind the scenes) to keep this site at the top of the heap. All of this stuff is greek to me but I really like what the site offers and I use it daily. Hope you can keep it at this standard with little cost to the user but I understand the forces at work. Good luck!
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