In the bowels of my dungeon.

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Re: In the bowels of my dungeon.

Post by highpilgrim » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:39 am

greenonion wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:28 am
I have a pair of 57 year old legs I could let go.
My mom has an old wheelchair in her basement you can have, old man. Then you can hold on to the legs.

It's a pretty sporty-looking model. I can paint a racing stripe on it so you feel young again.
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Re: In the bowels of my dungeon.

Post by highpilgrim » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:41 am

yaktoleft13 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:37 am
If you do end up finding room for the crashpad, I'd love to take it!
If no one wants to pay for shipping, I'll let you have it if I go west.

IJTF willing.
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Re: In the bowels of my dungeon.

Post by d_baker » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:39 am

Sir Derkase the Deuce, you're working on some good karma points. ;)
I should do the same with some of my gear since it sits in storage... #-o :lol:
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Re: In the bowels of my dungeon.

Post by greenonion » Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:42 am

highpilgrim wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:39 am
greenonion wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:28 am
I have a pair of 57 year old legs I could let go.
My mom has an old wheelchair in her basement you can have, old man. Then you can hold on to the legs.

It's a pretty sporty-looking model. I can paint a racing stripe on it so you feel young again.
Add two large Go Daddy stickers (along with that racing stripe) and we’re in business.
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Re: In the bowels of my dungeon.

Post by OldTrad » Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:48 am

highpilgrim wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:26 am
OldTrad wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:21 am
How old is the nylon? (It has a shelf life whether exposed to light or not)
7 or 8, as I recall.
That’s approaching the limit to where it will start losing strength, at least as far as my understanding goes. Throughout my life when I have been climbing a lot I replace all nylon, ropes, slings, everything pretty frequently (e.g., a max life of 5 years). If I’m using a lead rope a lot I would likely replace it at around 2 seasons. Of course if you notice obvious wear on anything then replace it sooner. Todd Skinner died because the tie-in loop on his harness broke -nobody should forget that.
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Re: In the bowels of my dungeon.

Post by highpilgrim » Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:51 am

d_baker wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:39 am
I should do the same with some of my gear since it sits in storage...
That's really the point of the thread; we all have that stuff in our house, basement, garage, shed, truck, car, hallway closet, cedar chest. It's EVERYWHERE.

I have a wooden ice axe in Ricky's house that he's given me three times, but it never moves out of his pile and into mine. :lol:
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Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:48 am
That’s approaching the limit to where it will start losing strength, at least as far as my understanding goes.
Angry will have seen your concern and can use them as she feels comfortable. Thanks for the warning. :wink:
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Re: In the bowels of my dungeon.

Post by Bale » Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:20 pm

Hey Pilgrim, I would take some of those climbing holds off your hands, (pun intended).
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Re: In the bowels of my dungeon.

Post by TomPierce » Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:34 pm

Bale wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:20 pm
Hey Pilgram, I would take some of those climbing holds off your hands, (pun intended).
RE slings, there’s a YouTube dude who tests old climbing gear to failure. I was surprised how strong 30 year old quick draws are, some tested full strength! Obviously many caveats with nylon and climbing gear.
Yeah, I think I know the dude you're talking about, his site's title was sort of off base but he does some really interesting testing. Debunks some accepted wisdom for climbing anchors. I recall watching a segment about the idea of shock loading on anchors, e.g. an equalized 2 or 3 piece belay anchor, with sudden failure of a piece. My recollection was the shock load didn't come remotely close to the max Kn of the sling. He also did a segment about anchor/bolt failure, also interesting. It's been some time since I watched that segment on shock loading, and try as I might I couldn't really significantly fault his methodology.

As for the aging of climbing soft goods, I'm in the "it depends" camp: I'd want to know about exposure to sunlight, the fall history, etc. But yeah, as described by Pilgrim sounds like these were well stored. And geez...do the manufacturers have a vested interest in selling more gear by lowering the expiration dates? :shock: Say it ain't so!

-Tom
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Re: In the bowels of my dungeon.

Post by highpilgrim » Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:34 pm

Bale wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:20 pm
Hey Pilgrim, I would take some of those climbing holds off your hands, (pun intended).
Sorry Bale, someone beat you to the punch. I'm updating the original post with red highlight behind the listing when someone grabs them.
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Re: In the bowels of my dungeon.

Post by Bale » Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:37 pm

highpilgrim wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:34 pm
Bale wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:20 pm
Hey Pilgrim, I would take some of those climbing holds off your hands, (pun intended).
Sorry Bale, someone beat you to the punch. I'm updating the original post with red highlight behind the listing when someone grabs them.
No worries, good thread anyway dungeon master;)
Tom, I edited my post in an effort to not derail the thread, lol. Anyway, IMO like 90 percent of the battle is knowing the history of the gear, and it sounds like Angry and Pilgrim know each other’s history. I tend to err on the safe side like OldTrad, especially with ropes, although some of my Blue Water slings are going on 20 years :shock:
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Re: In the bowels of my dungeon.

Post by 12ersRule » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:03 pm

Bale wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:37 pm
Tom, I edited my post in an effort to not derail the thread, lol. Anyway, IMO like 90 percent of the battle is knowing the history of the gear, and it sounds like Angry and Pilgrim know each other’s history. I tend to err on the safe side like OldTrad, especially with ropes, although some of my Blue Water slings are going on 20 years :shock:
Pilgrim lives in Missery. That's pretty much all you need to know about his gear! :lol:
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Re: In the bowels of my dungeon.

Post by highpilgrim » Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:07 pm

12ersRule wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 2:03 pm
Pilgrim lives in Missery. That's pretty much all you need to know about his gear!
I wear out hiking boots and camping supplies faster than you do, halfdeuce...

Climbing gear, not so much.
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