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Re: Man and his dog separately rescued on Mt Harvard

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:28 pm
by JChitwood
ker0uac wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:11 amI presume he's a CO resident, so why is he suffering from altitude sickness
Huh? Living in CO for 25 years has never made me immune from altitude sickness. I get some form of it every time I’m above 13,000’.

Re: Man and his dog separately rescued on Mt Harvard

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:31 pm
by Trotter
JChitwood wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:28 pm
ker0uac wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:11 amI presume he's a CO resident, so why is he suffering from altitude sickness
Huh? Living in CO for 25 years has never made me immune from altitude sickness. I get some form of it every time I’m above 13,000’.
+1
Some people get it more seriously then others.

In any case, the heroes are the others who worked to bring his dog back to safety. Reminds me of the sawtooth dog story

Re: Man and his dog separately rescued on Mt Harvard

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:51 pm
by ker0uac
JChitwood wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:28 pm
ker0uac wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:11 amI presume he's a CO resident, so why is he suffering from altitude sickness
Huh? Living in CO for 25 years has never made me immune from altitude sickness. I get some form of it every time I’m above 13,000’.
Oh really? Sorry, point taken. I forget that even within CO, depending on where you live, going to the mountains can mean that you are doubling the altitude your body is used to.

Re: Man and his dog separately rescued on Mt Harvard

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:00 pm
by ker0uac
Trotter wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:31 pm Reminds me of the sawtooth dog story
Right, didn't he go to jail? or at least was charged with animal cruelty?

Re: Man and his dog separately rescued on Mt Harvard

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:48 pm
by sigepnader
ker0uac wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:00 pm
Trotter wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:31 pm Reminds me of the sawtooth dog story
Right, didn't he go to jail? or at least was charged with animal cruelty?
He did not.

Anthony Ortolani was sentenced to one year of unsupervised probation and 30 hours of community service. It’s part of a plea agreement, avoiding the possible 18 months in jail and $5,000 fine he could have received for animal cruelty.

Re: Man and his dog separately rescued on Mt Harvard

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:49 pm
by sigepnader
Hard to believe that was eight years ago btw. I remember that issue here blowing slap up.

As it should’ve.

Re: Man and his dog separately rescued on Mt Harvard

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:41 pm
by teamdonkey
CaptCO wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:33 pm Why isn’t harvard considered easy class 3 for the crux move?
"If you take your time and look for the easiest way up the final pitch, the difficulty can be kept to Class 2"

Re: Man and his dog separately rescued on Mt Harvard

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:43 am
by timisimaginary
hellmanm wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:16 am
timisimaginary wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:37 am the dog didn't "get lost"... the owner lost him through his incompetence. he obviously neither had the dog leashed nor had provided the training to recall the dog when he lost sight of him. lucky for the dog there wasn't a worse outcome. unlucky for the dog he has to go back to the same incompetent owner who will probably endanger the dog again someday.
highpilgrim wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:26 am
sigepnader wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:41 pm a**hole comment: Leave your damn dogs at home.

Sincerely, a lover of dogs and a hater of incompetence.
Which applies to at least 2/3 of all dog owners who are incapable of (or impatient enough) that they don't train their dogs.

Don't worry, he's friendly!

C'mon guys. This is Monday morning quarterbacking at its finest. It reeks of the same judgment that we condemn when someone tries to analyze a fatal accident. Rocks move, feet slip, snow slides... and people make mistakes! There are threads on this forum where amazing, accomplished hikers/climbers have outlined their dumb decisions. I'm just happy that hiker and dog are okay now.
this wasn't an accident. this was wholly preventable by either a) keeping the dog on a leash or b) training the dog to come when called... or, ideally, both. if you're going to make the decision to take the dog in the wilderness, then you're 100% responsible for making sure you do everything in your power to ensure the dog returns safely. that includes pre-hike preparation, like giving your dog proper training and keeping it on a leash if you can't ensure it will stay by your side or come when called.

Re: Man and his dog separately rescued on Mt Harvard

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:44 am
by timisimaginary
sigepnader wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:48 pm
ker0uac wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:00 pm
Trotter wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 1:31 pm Reminds me of the sawtooth dog story
Right, didn't he go to jail? or at least was charged with animal cruelty?
He did not.

Anthony Ortolani was sentenced to one year of unsupervised probation and 30 hours of community service. It’s part of a plea agreement, avoiding the possible 18 months in jail and $5,000 fine he could have received for animal cruelty.
and he lost custody of the dog. as he should've.