Rattlesnake on 14ers?

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Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by ker0uac » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:49 pm

New dog owner here, so for the first time actually paying attention to rattlesnakes. I have never had an encounter with one, so wondering if anyone knows of 14er trails where rattlesnake danger is above normal?
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Post by SkaredShtles » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:00 pm

No.
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Post by ahogling » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:13 pm

Research by a Colorado naturalist who advises a hiking safety course at CMC indicates rattlesnakes are not found above 9000 feet. Your dog should be fine.
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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by Tornadoman » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:47 pm

I know that rattlesnakes have been encountered by people bushwhacking to get to the lower portions of the SW ridge of Little Bear, as well as on lower portions of Lake Como Road. I have never heard of them being seen on any other 14er trails/approaches.
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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by Scott P » Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:00 pm

Some people report seeing them on the Barr Trail. That's the only time I have heard of them on a 14er route (at least before this thread mentioning SW Ridge Little Bear/Lake Como Road).
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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by Dan_Suitor » Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:38 pm

I once came across a Bull Snake higher up, but never a rattler. Bull snakes look and act a lot like rattle snakes but are not venomous. Colorado does have plenty of rattlers though so be careful with your dog if you are hiking in one of the areas where they are known to live.
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Post by CaptCO » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:25 pm

Interesting, any idea what the shelf life is? Assuming it’s not very cheap
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Post by Harmit » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:33 pm

An initial vaccination, booster in 2 weeks then yearly...Should cost 20 to 40 per vaccine at most clinics (more in Denver perhaps?). The more vaccines under your belt, the better circulating antibody levels.
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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by pfiore1 » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:47 pm

CaptCO wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:25 pm
Interesting, any idea what the shelf life is? Assuming it’s not very cheap
My girls received rattlesnake vaccine for several years while living and hiking in a rattlesnake dense area. The vaccine shelf life is only pertinent to the veterinarian administering it, so it doesn't matter to the dog owner. The first shot requires a booster shot two weeks later, then just one shot a year. It is not a vaccine like a virus vaccine, it doesn't always work and it doesn't cover all rattlesnake venoms. The best it can do is slightly reduce the reaction and lengthen the time one has to get their bitten dog to a vet to receive anti-venom. The vaccine does not cover all the rattlesnake species present in Colorado, you'll have to check with your vet to find out which species it is for.

I can't remember exactly the cost, but I think it was $30 per dog once a year for a 60 pound dog. There are training courses for dogs/owners to help avoid rattlesnake bites which is probably more valuable than the vaccine. Although, the vaccine plus training is the best option if hiking in rattlesnake country is unavoidable.
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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by CaptCO » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:51 pm

pfiore1 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:47 pm
CaptCO wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:25 pm
Interesting, any idea what the shelf life is? Assuming it’s not very cheap
My girls received rattlesnake vaccine for several years while living and hiking in a rattlesnake dense area. The vaccine shelf life is only pertinent to the veterinarian administering it, so it doesn't matter to the dog owner. The first shot requires a booster shot two weeks later, then just one shot a year. It is not a vaccine like a virus vaccine, it doesn't always work and it doesn't cover all rattlesnake venoms. The best it can do is slightly reduce the reaction and lengthen the time one has to get their bitten dog to a vet to receive anti-venom. The vaccine does not cover all the rattlesnake species present in Colorado, you'll have to check with your vet to find out which species it is for.

I can't remember exactly the cost, but I think it was $30 per dog once a year for a 60 pound dog. There are training courses for dogs/owners to help avoid rattlesnake bites which is probably more valuable than the vaccine. Although, the vaccine plus training is the best option if hiking in rattlesnake country is unavoidable.
Thank you for the response. I have seen the classes and they seem very legitimate and helpful. For $30 per year, it’s a no brainer. My 115lb lab mix will probably require a little bit more.

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Re: Rattlesnake on 14ers?

Post by AndrewLyonsGeibel » Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:20 pm

I have seen a couple on the lower portion, maybe first two miles, of Barr Trail and one by the 2wd trailhead going up toward South Colony Lakes. Not 14ers, but I’ve also seen one kinda near the flatirons in boulder and several at Cheyenne Mountain State Park.
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