Lost: Skis on Torrey's Peak/Ski Recovery Mission

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Re: Lost: Skis on Torrey's Peak/Ski Recovery Mission

Post by dholm » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:02 am

With your track record, just do everyone a favor and let SAR know your itinerary a few days before your next trip. Then, they can be sure to not even wait for a call but instead just plan on showing up and bailing you out.
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Re: Lost: Skis on Torrey's Peak/Ski Recovery Mission

Post by jwproulx » Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:56 am

Bill -- check out the usename of the user who posted that comment on TGR. ;)

As to the question of why Chris Davenport can get away with skiing Dead Dog in February -- read his TR.
Dav wrote:I wasn't sure if we would get a shot at the Dead Dog, but from the top it looked pretty good, once you got into the couloir. The upper 200 feet was wind loaded (on top of the dust layer) and as I dropped in off the summit and did a few ski cuts, I got a few small pockets of snow to break loose and move a bit. But it was just the top foot of snow that moved, and traversing into the couloir gave better and more stable conditions. The three of us skied from safe zone to safe zone, one at a time, and then skied the entire bottom half of the couloir non-stop to the bottom of the bowl.
There's a lot in there on how he mitigated risk. Bottom line, Davenport brings a lot of skill and smarts to the game. I won't armchair his decisions, but I also won't base my own decisions on what some ridiculously experienced pro did. The line between "safe" and "bloody dangerous" in BC skiing can be very thin, and when you have less experience it can be very hard to know when you've crossed it, even when it's obvious to more experienced skiers.
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Re: Lost: Skis on Torrey's Peak/Ski Recovery Mission

Post by Couloirman » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:44 am

Brian Kimball wrote: Im pretty sure you would have had a "1st winter descent" and definitely "first winter figure 11 descent" of that line and if you would have stuck it with cameras rolling then you probably could have scored some new skis I am sure.
Wouldn't have been a first, but maybe a first descent while on one ski :wink: , we skied that line a few winters ago after a winter dead dog outing that was so stable we had to go back for the money line off the face. We also got armchaired into a 4 or 5 page thread on TGR about it even without an avalanche.


Tell you what MrWaffles, I might help you out to get your ski back, but you gotta do a few things for me too:

1) take avy level 1 and 2. upon completion of these classes I wanna see your certificates of completion, and I want you to give me the phone number of your instructor to call him/her and ask about your performance in the class.

2) Write a 2 page single spaced letter to your parents and family explaining that you have died in an avalanche, why you partake in the outdoors activities that you do, what you get out of it, how you go about mitigating danger, and saying your last goodbyes to all your loved ones. This letter you should leave somewhere for a friend to give to your relatives when/if you die. The BASE jumping schools often make new students write this before their first jump and it helps to not only put things into perspective, but makes people tread carefully for the rest of their extreme sports careers and helps to really feel the severity of every action and its possible consequences.

3) Buy a Spot messenger, activate it and carry it everywhere.

4) Buy the 2 SAR teams that you got called out gift baskets, something big, and nice probably with booze, chocolates, and cured meats.

I'm 100% serious with this post and the things listed above, this is not a joke, PM me if you wanna talk more about it. I'm not guaranteeing Ill find anything, but once I deem the conditions safe enough to go look Ill check it out and let you know, so get started fulfilling the above 4 items, there might be a few more added as I think of them...
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Re: Lost: Skis on Torrey's Peak/Ski Recovery Mission

Post by George James » Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:52 am

...and Waffles too. Tasty Waffles with LOTS of syrup.

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Re: Lost: Skis on Torrey's Peak/Ski Recovery Mission

Post by rickinco123 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:09 am

Couloirman,

Awesome post, especially #2, I might have to sit down and do that.

As to #4, he'll have to have someone else buy the booze. :D
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Re: Lost: Skis on Torrey's Peak/Ski Recovery Mission

Post by Prairie Native » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:13 am

Stop flaming him. He gets it. goodness. I hope none of you ever make a mistake ever. I understand the largeness of the f up, but seriously, keep it positive, or don't post, or PM him.
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Re: Lost: Skis on Torrey's Peak/Ski Recovery Mission

Post by Gahugafuga » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:23 am

Prairie Native wrote:Stop flaming him. He gets it. goodness. I hope none of you ever make a mistake ever. I understand the largeness of the f up, but seriously, keep it positive, or don't post, or PM him.
Right on. Let's get back to what's important here: is an earthquake going to avalanche the Coalpit Headwall and kill us all?

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Re: Lost: Skis on Torrey's Peak/Ski Recovery Mission

Post by skiwall » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:25 am

Oh man.... I want that so bad. I look at it every day from work.

Do you know anybody who's done it recently? I bet the entrance isn't as sketchy after these last two weeks.
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Re: Lost: Skis on Torrey's Peak/Ski Recovery Mission

Post by cheeseburglar » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:28 am

Senor Waffles, have you seen Davenport's movie?
I wonder what Dav would have thought of your R2D2 slide. Would he have thought of it as a slab to kick off before skiing the line?
The movie is pretty crazy. In one scene he's skiing down Maroon and has to stop below a rock band as his sluff mosies by. The voice over during the scene is him talking about "managing sluff".
Of course you shouldn't think you can do what he does until you start winning extreme skiing competitions and spend a few years in the avy control business.
If I were you I'd take couliorman's offer.
That Coalpit Headwall looks nice...
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Re: Lost: Skis on Torrey's Peak/Ski Recovery Mission

Post by Mrwaffles989 » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:37 am

BillMiddlebrook wrote:Well, the comments over on TGR were pretty much the same.

Phil, I hope you were being sarcastic when you said this: "So what if 2 out of 3 of my trips turned into SAR calls, who hasn't had a few SAR callouts?"
I'm not sirjongalot. I have no idea who that is. I dont go on TGR. Someone has way too much time...
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Re: Lost: Skis on Torrey's Peak/Ski Recovery Mission

Post by Couloirman » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:43 am

cheeseburglar wrote:Senor Waffles, have you seen Davenport's movie?
Wait, is the movie out yet? or did you catch one of the sneak previews last year?
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Re: Lost: Skis on Torrey's Peak/Ski Recovery Mission

Post by cheeseburglar » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:56 am

Couloirman wrote:
cheeseburglar wrote:Senor Waffles, have you seen Davenport's movie?
Wait, is the movie out yet? or did you catch one of the sneak previews last year?
Hmmm. I saw it at the 5 point film festival in Carbondale, last May I think. I thought it was quite sneaky of me.
Is he still having problems with the man not letting him do a general release?
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