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Need help selecting backcountry camp site for Longs Attempt!

Post by jibler » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:02 am

Hey 14ers!

I have won the lottery for permit for RMNP this summer

hopefully it is finally time to get up longs - the way I always wanted to - via an overnight camping trip!

but I am clueless about what is best spots.

Goblin Forest?

Boulderfield? I seem to recall this 2nd one being talked about a lot.

as long as I'm getting a good crack at longs I hardly care.

but help me out - what is the coolest one?

THanks
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Re: Need help selecting backcountry camp site for Longs Attempt!

Post by cottonmountaineering » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:08 am

boulder field is the most popular spot, i think the last time i read about it was that its kind of a crap shoot camping there as its too windy to sleep. goblin forest is only like a mile in, so not really much of a point
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Re: Need help selecting backcountry camp site for Longs Attempt!

Post by CaptCO » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:09 am

cottonmountaineering wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:08 am
boulder field is the most popular spot, i think the last time i read about it was that its kind of a crap shoot camping there as its too windy to sleep. goblin forest is only like a mile in, so not really much of a point
Agreed, if it weren’t off limits bivy in keyhole shelter would be an epic sunset spot. A couple winters ago I was super looking forward to the shelter, just to find it completely filled with snow lmao! Buzz kill, I honestly have no clue why people enjoy camping there. It’s a relatively short hike if you build up to it..
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Post by jibler » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:15 am

I guess I'm leaning to this battle mountain one?

goblin too close to the trailhead and boulderfield seems like you'd be exposed as hell all night.
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Re: Need help selecting backcountry camp site for Longs Attempt!

Post by TheRealRooster » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:19 am

jibler wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:15 am
I guess I'm leaning to this battle mountain one?

goblin too close to the trailhead and boulderfield seems like you'd be exposed as hell all night.
I did Meeker via Dreamweaver from Goblin Forest a few years back. Unless you just feel like camping beforehand, not really worth it for the head start on the trail in my opinion. But it was a perfectly nice place to camp! We were pretty much full on snow camping in early June, FYI.
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Post by jibler » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:23 am

although now I read fine print that battle mountain only good for large groups?


I guess in that case I'd just as soon go for boulderfield?

seems dumb to go up 2 miles to goblin forest and then have a ton of hiking to do the next day?


i thought coming up from the NW was an option? but I don't see that on 14ers routes for longs.

boulder brook? is that a thing?

EDIT

I guess now I'm focusing in on early September at Boulder Field? Seemingly that is a good time of year weather-wise to to be exposed up there all night?
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Re: Need help selecting backcountry camp site for Longs Attempt!

Post by Aphelion » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:32 am

I'll be the contrarian and vote for Goblin Forest, solely because you're doing it in the summer (I'd say boulderfield in the winter). GF is a bit off the trail and gives your campsite a little privacy from the hordes, whereas BF is just out there without a scrap of cover. If you don't care about privacy, then boulderfield is much better from a "summit day" perspective.
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Re: Need help selecting backcountry camp site for Longs Attempt!

Post by justiner » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:07 pm

May get a bit chilly in Sept. at the Boulderfield.

If you're really interested in something different, consider hiking into Sandbeach Lake starting at Wild Basin, which is a legit backpack in, and taking Keplingers Couloir up Longs. From Sandbeach Lake, it's mostly off trail, and you're not going to see many people along that way, until you get to Homestretch. In summer, it's not the funnest of routes - kinda loose, morraine-type stuff, but it will give you a little more of a lonely feel. Dragons Egg up Meeker is also an option - and probably a better one, quality-wise, but you will have to traverse to Longs. Could make it a loop down Kep, if you don't mind a slog down.

Could be some fishing at Sandbeach, too.
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Re: Need help selecting backcountry camp site for Longs Attempt!

Post by peter303 » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:40 pm

Boulderfield hands down. Goblin is only about 10% up. Boulderfield is 2/3 the way up in distance and altitude, but only halfway in terms of effort. Its class 1 trail to the Boulderfield, and class 2/3 afterwards. Class 3 means there are several spots where you must use your arm strength to pivot between ledges or climb troughs. Camping at the Boulderfield means you can start the summit attempt at dawn rather than 2AM from the parking lot or Goblin.

Goblin is in the woods, next to a stream. Boulderfield has no trees and exposed to thunderstorms. It usually has some stream water or the trailhead signs will tell you it doesnt. Both are near the main trail where there are over a thousand hikers on a weekend day, day. There is constant traffic all hours of the day and night from mid July to mid September. Boulderfield has an outhouse.
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Re: Need help selecting backcountry camp site for Longs Attempt!

Post by jibler » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:50 pm

Thanks for the tips everyone

I guess I am locked in on hopefully Goblin Forest and fallback to Boulderfield - mid september


that is that nice time of year for less afternoon storms so hopefully this pans out.


and really - settling on goblin isn't that bad as one reason I never did longs before is I wanted to not have to wake up at 4am after 'trying' to sleep in my car at the trailhead or whatever.

so just getting a toe hold on the mtn is a good start!
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Re: Need help selecting backcountry camp site for Longs Attempt!

Post by CaptCO » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:07 pm

If I had to do that god-awful keyhole route again, I'd honestly just bring foam/blow-up pads (2x) to Boulderfield. Magma 30 from REI would be perfect that time of year, and only ways a little over a pound. They make some sweet blow-up-super LW pillows now too. I have not been there in summer/fall but would plan on packing all your water out just in case. Justiner correct me if I'm wrong, and there are water sources around/above Boulderfield. Maybe some earplugs/charged-up iPod would be a good idea. Congrats on getting a spot, better than not getting one for sure.
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Re: Need help selecting backcountry camp site for Longs Attempt!

Post by jrs1965 » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:08 pm

When doing Kiener's last August I spent the night in the bivy cave above Chasm Lake...
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