Jorts wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 19, 2021 6:02 pm
Really? That sucks. Here are the peaks in the Gore where I didn’t see anyone on a summer weekend day:
Yes. I'm skeptical that you didn't see anyone on a summer weekend when going to those peaks, but OK.
There were lots of people on the approach when I went. I didn't run into people once I left Cataract Lake, but I could defintely see people down at the lake from the summit. Unless someone has poor eyesight, I can't imagine many summer weekends when people won't be visible down at Cataract Lake from the summit. That was even 20 years ago when I could see people down at the lake from the summit and I would bet that it's even more crowded now.
C through E
I'm surprised that on a summer weekend you wouldn't be able to see anyone on the approach to C or even over on Mt. Powell from the summit of Peak C. Even from Bubble Lake I could see from a distance people on Powell they would be more visible from Peak C. Mt. Powell seems to get ascents every summer weekend, which means people should be visible from Peak C; at least if you look. I'd really be suprised however if there were no people on the approach.
The only way I could maybe see not seeing any people on a summer weekend is if you take a more off the beaten track approach such as Black Creek and then if there happens to be no one on Powell that weekend (which is probably rare). People on Powell would be visible from Peak C, even with the naked eye.
D and E might be possible as long as you didn't approach from Piney Creek and as long as no other people were visible from a distance on the mountains in the vicinity.
You couldn't see Highway 9 from there? No one was on the Slate Lake Trail? It would be hard not to see people either from the summits or on the approaches.
Slate Creek is pretty popular so it would be rare that you wouldn't see anyone on the approach if you use that one. Maybe not on a more difficult approach though.
We were there during and just after a snowstorm and we still saw some people on the approaches. Also Booth and/or Pitkin Lakes are visible from those peaks and they are defintely close enough to see people down at the lakes from those summits. There are almost always people at the lakes on a summer weekend (at least during the day). After a September snowstorm, we were the only one at the lakes, but we still saw some people not that far from the trailhead. In good weather you almost always see people at the lakes on summer weekends.
That one sounds possible not to see anyone as long as you don't approach via Pitkin Lake Trail. Most people do though.
How would you approach those peaks without hiking up Bighorn or Pitkin Creek? Those trails always have people on summer weekends.
I could see a climber on Valhalla when standing on Grand Traverse Peak. I could also see someone on Keller from there. Of course that means the reverse was also true. There were also people on the Deluge Lake Trail. Even if you used a more difficult approach to those peaks, on a summer weekend, I can't imagine that you wouldn't be able to see people down at Deluge Lake from those summits. Or even on the nearby peaks.
The highway is visible from the summit. Even if you don't count cars as seeing people, which approach doesn't have any people on a summer weekend?
Which approach wouldn't have people visible?
Wichita (numerous times)
I-70 is right there. Even if you don't count seeing cars as seeing people, there is a bike trail. You really couldn't see people on bikes from up there? It's close enough that you can see people in Frisco from up there and perhaps usually on Mt. Royal. A person standing or sitting on the rock north of Mt. Royal should be visible from Wichita. Usually lots of people hang out on that rock north of Royal, even when no one is on Wichita.
You must’ve been doing something unusual to encounter so many people.
To be clear I said I saw people, not that I always encountered them. Here's what I said: I don't think I have ever climbed a Gore summit on a summer weekend and not seen people
, Even then on most approaches I did encounter people. The only approach I can think of where I didn't see anyone was Black Creek, but even then I spotted some people on Mount Powell from a distance. Just because someone might not have encountered other climbers once leaving the trail doesn't mean that he or she never saw a person either on the approach or from anywhere on the peak.
Anyway, I have gone to the Gores a few times without seeing anyone. Those were winter (including weeeknds) or non-weekend trips in late fall. In winter, as long as you aren't around the trails in places like south of Rabbit Ears Pass, Gore Pass, or around Vail you can have trips where you don't see anyone. This is true of much of the range. Even on popular summer trails such as Cataract Lake I have had a trip where we didn't see anyone else in winter.
Anyway, just because I always saw people on the summer trips in the Gores doesn't mean that it was bad. Sometimes you want to be alone, but most of the time I don't mind seeing people at all.
I'm slow and fat. Unfortunately, those are my good qualities.