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Re: Avalanche San Juans- The Nose

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:08 am
by mountainrev
I lived in Eagle for over 20 years. Moved about 4 years ago. I didn't know Andy Jessen, who started and co-owned Bonfire Brewing, personally, but spoke to him often when I visited the brewery. He was a fixture in the community, as was (is) his brewery. This will have a deep and long-lasting impact on that community. There are links to three separate Go Fund Mes in this Vail Daily article, if anyone is interested: https://www.vaildaily.com/news/eagle-va ... e-victims/

Re: Avalanche San Juans- The Nose

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:39 am
by SkaredShtles
Carl_Healy wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:21 pm San Juan County Office of Emergency Management also had a recent Facebook Post/Press Release.

Very sad.

The photos contained within are particularly distressing. Burial in 20+ ft of snow I can't imagine the effort it took the SAR teams to dig that tunnel into the snow for recovery.
The photo of the SAR team member cutting the snow with a chainsaw was telling... :(

Re: Avalanche San Juans- The Nose

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:06 pm
by Carl_Healy
SkaredShtles wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:39 am
Carl_Healy wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:21 pm San Juan County Office of Emergency Management also had a recent Facebook Post/Press Release.

Very sad.

The photos contained within are particularly distressing. Burial in 20+ ft of snow I can't imagine the effort it took the SAR teams to dig that tunnel into the snow for recovery.
The photo of the SAR team member cutting the snow with a chainsaw was telling... :(
I just took AIARE I and thought that would help in the chance myself or my companions were to be buried, but those photos are a bit eye opening.
Even if there were 5 companions carrying probes and shovels I don't think they'd be able to get to anyone buried that deep in time to save them...

Re: Avalanche San Juans- The Nose

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:40 pm
by SkaredShtles
Carl_Healy wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:06 pm I just took AIARE I and thought that would help in the chance myself or my companions were to be buried, but those photos are a bit eye opening.
Even if there were 5 companions carrying probes and shovels I don't think they'd be able to get to anyone buried that deep in time to save them...
Yeah - they don't make probes that long. You'd have to dig WAY down to even get to the point that you *could* probe. :shock:

It's definitely humbling and scary...

Re: Avalanche San Juans- The Nose

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:33 pm
by CaptCO
Prayers go out to the families involved, absolutely heartbreaking...

Re: Avalanche San Juans- The Nose

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:47 pm
by Buckie06
the statistics of a live rescue are about 4% when buried by snow 2 meters or more (6.5 feet). I was really curious from the prelim reports why the 3 skiers not caught in the slide were only able to recover one person, but if the other three were buried 20' deep then that explains it. It'll be interesting to see the full report when it is finished.

Re: Avalanche San Juans- The Nose

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:50 pm
by SkaredShtles
Aaand another avy in East Vail just today.

https://www.vaildaily.com/news/one-repo ... east-vail/

++vibes

Re: Avalanche San Juans- The Nose

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:12 pm
by curt86iroc
SkaredShtles wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:50 pm Aaand another avy in East Vail just today.

https://www.vaildaily.com/news/one-repo ... east-vail/

++vibes
this is so unfortunate.

Re: Avalanche San Juans- The Nose

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:23 pm
by ker0uac
Does an avalanche due to weak snowpack make a slope safer? Though not practical, one solution to address CO weak snowpack is to safely trigger massive avalanches everywhere? That way, future snow can accumulate on top of stable layers? Just asking out of intellectual curiosity.

Re: Avalanche San Juans- The Nose

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:25 pm
by cottonmountaineering
ker0uac wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:23 pm Does an avalanche due to weak snowpack make a slope safer? Though not practical, one solution to address CO weak snowpack is to safely trigger massive avalanches everywhere? That way, future snow can accumulate on top of stable layers? Just asking out of intellectual curiosity.
we could also try nuking hurricanes

Re: Avalanche San Juans- The Nose

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:26 pm
by cottonmountaineering
but yes, ski resorts use explosives in targeted areas to make them slide

Re: Avalanche San Juans- The Nose

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:30 pm
by rijaca
cottonmountaineering wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:26 pm but yes, ski resorts use explosives in targeted areas to make them slide
So does CDOT.