Longs Peak rescue

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Re: Longs Peak rescue

Post by jameseroni » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:00 pm

Who was it that was rescued from the bells on June 3rd? Also, don't worry too much about the negative comments Sam. Sounds like you learned from your mistakes. People forget sometimes that we all came into this world naked and screaming. And rest assured, 99% don't care that you picked up a baby duck.
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Re: Longs Peak rescue

Post by JohnnyDangerous » Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:04 am

Nice work Sam...Part of the allure of the Colorado mountains is the adventure. My second 14er was Capitol and we saw a cougar at 5am. Thank you for sharing your story and congrats on climbing.
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Re: Longs Peak rescue

Post by Roald » Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:26 pm

Hungry Jack wrote: Sam, just be thankful you did not leave a dog up there, or be part of an outfit called Camp Gladiator.
LOL. I was hoping for a selfie on the summit holding a sign that was discarded before descending.
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Roald, in that one sentence you managed to demonstrate that A) you're an idiot and B) you're a hypocrite, and a perfect example of the cause of the modern-day problems in this country.
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Re: Longs Peak rescue

Post by Hungry Jack » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:34 pm

Forgive me, but I do not think we have addressed the question of how Sam "Don't Need No Stinkin Crampons" Frappier ascended Longs Peak. This mystery must be solved.

I find it highly improbable that he ascended the Flying Dutchman couloir and summited. This would have required him ascending TFD, and then either traversing Broadway to and up Keiners, or going the Loft/Keplinger's route (and negotiating Keplinger's ice-covered exit ramp to the Homestretch. The former seems almost impossible given that after descending Keiners, Sam did not realize he could traverse Broadway back to Lamb's slide. The latter seems impossible given that he admitted no real knowledge of the routes, and anyone seeking to summit from the Loft would almost certainly ascend the Beaver and thus be stymied by the Notch.

So the more likely scenario after parting with his friend at Chasm Lake would have been an ascent of the Camel couloir, or perhaps its sister (IIRC, there is a challenging but doable couloir adjacent to the Camel), and then ascending, most likely, the Cables route (in tennis shoes).
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Re: Longs Peak rescue

Post by pbakwin » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:43 pm

Hungry Jack wrote:Forgive me, but I do not think we have addressed the question of how Sam "Don't Need No Stinkin Crampons" Frappier ascended Longs Peak. This mystery must be solved.

I find it highly improbable that he ascended the Flying Dutchman couloir and summited. This would have required him ascending TFD, and then either traversing Broadway to and up Keiners, or going the Loft/Keplinger's route (and negotiating Keplinger's ice-covered exit ramp to the Homestretch. The former seems almost impossible given that after descending Keiners, Sam did not realize he could traverse Broadway back to Lamb's slide. The latter seems impossible given that he admitted no real knowledge of the routes, and anyone seeking to summit from the Loft would almost certainly ascend the Beaver and thus be stymied by the Notch.

So the more likely scenario after parting with his friend at Chasm Lake would have been an ascent of the Camel couloir, or perhaps its sister (IIRC, there is a challenging but doable couloir adjacent to the Camel), and then ascending, most likely, the Cables route (in tennis shoes).
I believe it has already been established that he parted from his friend in upper Flying Dutchman, went back down to the lake and across to the Camel Cutoff, then up the North Face. Meanwhile his friend completed FD and ended up on the Beaver (South Longs) before descending.
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Re: Longs Peak rescue

Post by Mark A Steiner » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:34 pm

Believe it would be useful for a Longs Peak expert contributing to the Forum to post a 3D image displaying the various routes that may be taken up and down the mountain, if possible. That may sow more confusion as to where Sam went or, possibly resolve the matter more clearly for those deficient in such knowledge, including this poster.
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Re: Longs Peak rescue

Post by Brian C » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:59 pm

samfrappier wrote:...It was very doable in sneakers, I wasn't risking my life in any way....
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Re: Longs Peak rescue

Post by Brian C » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:36 pm

Here is a rough topo from my understanding of what he said. The story is confusing so I could easy be mixed up.

1) Up Flying Dutchman, changing mind and descending back to Chasm.
2) Ascend the Camel Gully toward Mt. Lady Washington.
3) Ascend North Face
4) Decides to descend different route and down-climbs Kiener's onto Broadway.
5) Gets stopped by 10 feet of east 5th class at the step-over at the top of Alexander's Chimney.

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More info can be found on the routes used here...
Flying Dutchman - http://climbinglife.com/ice-and-mixed-r ... g-dutchman" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Camel - http://www.summitpost.org/camel-s-gully/200414" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
North Face - http://climbinglife.com/rmnp-alpine-rou ... north-face" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Kiener's/Broadway - http://climbinglife.com/rmnp-alpine-rou ... ners-route" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Longs Peak rescue

Post by Fisching » Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:59 pm

SurfNTurf wrote: EDIT: Oh and also, this kid freakin' LOVES the Reebok Spartan Race.
At least it wasn't a Camp Gladiator T-shirt... Image
samfrappier wrote:I climbed the smaller mountain that is on the right of the lake if you look on the photo. After climbing this mountain I had a good view but my goal was to get to the top of Longs Peak so I continued climbing (well going down at start to get to the Longs Peak face).

Samuel Frappier
For a second I got worried we'd have another loon going for the 73 by bagging SE Longs.

And who's telling our esteemed friend, Dr. Jon, that he has some serious competition for "extreme" camping?

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Re: Longs Peak rescue

Post by d_baker » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:29 pm

heheehe....he's checked his Longs Peak box for an ascent. :)

Sooo....speaking of icons. His deserves an asterisk, or a whole new icon. Maybe a whirlybird icon. But since he didn't get a ride, maybe whirlybird assist w/routefinding icon.
But what if they did fly him off the mountain? Could he still check that box?!

I know how everyone likes to talk about icons....
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Re: Longs Peak rescue

Post by Hungry Jack » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:55 pm

I still cannot comprehend this. Not what is writ, but the fact that some kid started mucking around Longs looking for a way up like a hipster mucks around a thrift shop, climbs a technical snow route in sneakers, descends Kieners, camps on Broadway, and trots off the next day like he has tickets to a Rockies game.
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Re: Longs Peak rescue

Post by Air Squared » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:55 pm

I am so mesmerized by this story.....I'm thinking I've wasted nearly 2 full days worth of work on reading the various stories and comments about this kid's climb.

I have only gone up Longs once (the Keyhole Route)......in October with perfect conditions.....and it still presented itself a challenge (mostly because we camped at the Boulderfield, and froze our samosa's off).

Thanks to the many in this thread that have helped him tell his story with diagrams and knowledge of the mountain, this has really been an interesting read!
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