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So what is the consensus on skiing steep lines without a freeze? The main concern is still wet slide activity correct? I mean people ski year round so there has to be a point where it's fairly safe again
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Re: Spring skiing

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If skies are clear overnight, above tree line, generally snow will refreeze regardless of air temperature.
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lodgling wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:20 pm If skies are clear overnight, above tree line, generally snow will refreeze regardless of air temperature.
This.

Conversely, be wary of light freezes after cloudy nights.
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Re: Spring skiing

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grahampa wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:13 pm So what is the consensus on skiing steep lines without a freeze?
The consensus is don't ski steep lines without a solid freeze.
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Re: Spring skiing

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Hmm well the last two days I skied in RMNP on longs north face and flattops north couloir. The latter was much lower in elevation and did not have more than a small freeze and still skied quite hard. Does not see much sunlight. Aspect, elevation, amount of sunlight / cloud cover all have a big impact on what you're skiing. All I've been seeing are south and east facing slopes sliding in the last few days.

MonGoose wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:27 am
grahampa wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:13 pm So what is the consensus on skiing steep lines without a freeze?
The consensus is don't ski steep lines without a solid freeze.
Are we allowed to climb snow without a solid freeze because it's not as likely to create a wet slide or are all snow climbs / recreation off the table without a freeze?
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All recreation in or below steep snow covered terrain without a good freeze is not recommended. Even if you don't trigger a wet slide (or get caught in one that naturally releases above you) it's not very fun climbing or skiing in such conditions and can be downright dangerous.
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Re: Spring skiing

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The consensus is basically this for spring skiing steep lines.

I've followed this for years now solid freeze at tree line the night before, be off E aspects by 8-9am, S by 9-10am, West by 10-11pm, North by 11-Noon. First read that in the Dawson guide, been following that basic game plan for 21 years now.

As for skiing year round, there's definitely a point where the snowpack changes from spring to mature summer snowpack, where these rules don't necessarily apply, but I don't ski in those conditions so I can't comment.
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