7 Day Dumpster Dive

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Teresa Gergen
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Re: 7 Day Dumpster Dive

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SensoZakku wrote: Perhaps I'm in way over my head as I don't have any GIS or whatever this is considered experience, but this sounds really awesome. How does one add the ownership layer? Most counties in Wisconsin for instance have something like this http://ashlandcowi.wgxtreme.com/, but I have no idea where to go from there, or if I'm even in the right ballpark for that matter.

Thanks for any help anyone can offer, even if it's pointing to some learning resources.
I went to listsofjohn.com and called up a map of all ranked and unranked summits in your Ashland County, WI, example, and turned on the land management layer:
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I went to LOJ's Custom Lists section and created a list with these peaks in it, exported the list as a GPX file (a waypoint/marker consisting of a lat/long for each peak), then imported the GPX file into caltopo.com, and turned on the land management layer in caltopo, so now you can see each peak on a topo map:
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Zooming in on one of the peaks, I drew a random route line to it from the nearest bigger road (I have no idea how one actually best climbs this peak; this is just an example):
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Then I toggled to the satellite view, added on a 40' contour layer, zoomed in farther near the summit, and can see there might be a trail farther left/west of my route line. I'd re-draw the line to try to follow it (much harder with your vegetation in the east/midwest than out here). In the Sierra I draw lines to avoid as many boulderfields and cliffy areas as possible, that you wouldn't know about just from the topo maps. You can also note where there are houses and fences and draw a route away from them. Looks like I can't add more than 3 photos in a post so I'll try to add the satellite screen shot in a second post.

Once you've re-drawn your route to your satisfaction, you can download it to a Garmin GPS unit and actually follow it in the field. And you can print the topo map with your route drawn right on it from caltopo. It took me about 3 times longer to get the screenshots, resize them, and write out this post than it actually took me to do the work in LOJ and caltopo.
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Satellite screenshot:
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Paul S wrote:
boudreaux wrote:
CreekRunner wrote:that don't take less than an hour or are not occupied by a "summit house".
A couple of my favorite dives involved a summit house in Jeffco. Don't try this at Home! :shock:
I seem to remember a story of you walking onto the balcony of a house under construction on a Jeffco summit and blending in with the construction workers. :lol: 8820 perhaps?
Haha! Yes Paulley, that's right, I got on the front porch without anyone noticing while the crew was working on the back of the house! I wasn't gonna be denied! Awesome day, the things you do for a peak!
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hessma wrote:
Teresa Gergen wrote: But fair warning: you'll never have spare time again. Some of us enjoy the planning almost as much as the climbing.
Hahaha, I can see how that could become a new problem :-D
Thanks for the tips on using Caltopo! I might never sleep again...
I think the fun is discovering the problems and then solving that problem on the fly! But Caltopo is a great tool!

I got caught by the owner's dog on one of peaks near Golden Gate SP, I started down the nastiest slope, but the dog caught me, had me cornered, I could here the owner calling his dog, I didn't panic and confronted the dog, suddenly the dog bowed down in front of me and wanted to play, I was beside myself, shocked and relieved at the same time. I picked up his stick and tossed it far, and got the heck out of there!
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Here's another one, a high point was in someone's backyard, snuck up through the forest, and sat down in the metal patio chair on the deck. As I looked up, the owner was coming down his stairs looking at me through a big window, he freaked out, I bolted, ran through 100 yards of forest frantically and blasted down the road on my bike expecting to meet the police coming up the road to get me!
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Boudreaux, you county highpointers are certified insane. The amount of private property issues that you must deal with is astronomical. Thank goodness Culebra is the only 14er that has major issues. Even that peak is nothing compared to many CoHPs. Dealing with angry homeowners is my least favorite part of working on lesser known peakbagging lists, especially those east of the Rockies.
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Deviance from the Dumpsters Divers

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I feel like this thread should be renamed Confessions from somebody else's backyard.
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CreekRunner wrote:I feel like this thread should be renamed Confessions from somebody else's backyard.
I like it, could be a best seller!
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Teresa Gergen wrote:It took me about 3 times longer to get the screenshots, resize them, and write out this post than it actually took me to do the work in LOJ and caltopo.
Thank you very much for your detailed response!
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SensoZakku wrote:
Teresa Gergen wrote:It took me about 3 times longer to get the screenshots, resize them, and write out this post than it actually took me to do the work in LOJ and caltopo.
Thank you very much for your detailed response!
+1 on the thanks, Teresa!
Your screen shots were very helpful in getting me off the ground and confirming that caltopo Land Management layer doesn't appear to show individual property lines. If there is a layer for personal property that would be awesome!

Here is an example of what I mean. I was able to find this tool from Jeffco.
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Oh look, a vacant lot next to peak 4010 :-D
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hessma wrote:
SensoZakku wrote:
Teresa Gergen wrote:It took me about 3 times longer to get the screenshots, resize them, and write out this post than it actually took me to do the work in LOJ and caltopo.
Thank you very much for your detailed response!
+1 on the thanks, Teresa!
Your screen shots were very helpful in getting me off the ground and confirming that caltopo Land Management layer doesn't appear to show individual property lines. If there is a layer for personal property that would be awesome!

Here is an example of what I mean. I was able to find this tool from Jeffco.
jeffco_map.JPG
Oh look, a vacant lot next to peak 4010 :-D
How have I never known about this? Even more importantly, why does Colorado Christian University own the backside of 6262?
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CreekRunner wrote: Even more importantly, why does Colorado Christian University own the backside of 6262?6262&CCU.png

Uhh, I believe it's called private property. As in, any private person or organization can own it, including Christian schools. Get over it.
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