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CaptCO wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:16 pm

Thank you, and with all due respect. Trying to stay humble here if possible, but I’ve had hiking partners tell me it’d take 5 years where I’ve gotten in 2 months.
Were they talking about your ability to piss people off on the forums? If so, I agree. You are a natural. =D>
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LOL, dipshit's hubris meets reality on a <checks notes> ...bunny slope? Jesus f*cking christ, what a tard.
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Dave B wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:58 am LOL, dipshit hubris meets reality on a bunny slope? Jesus f*cking christ, what a tard.
Good morning, yes I suffered acromioclavicular joint separation. Sorry to disappoint [-(
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CaptCO wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:04 am
Dave B wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:58 am LOL, dipshit hubris meets reality on a bunny slope? Jesus f*cking christ, what a tard.
Good morning, yes I suffered acromioclavicular joint separation. Sorry to disappoint [-(
What do you want, sympathy?

Also, I edited my response after you quoted me, would you mind updating that, I think it's much funnier after the edit.
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Again, all kidding aside, but if you really are dealing with depression, get some help. Some of us who have lost friends in the mountains have also lost friends to that ailment. Sounds like you're taking a little break from the mountains so now would be a great time to deal with it. Since you've been to the ER and are in the "system," they can probably point you to someone. Would be a very brave thing to do.
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susanjoypaul wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:11 am Again, all kidding aside, but if you really are dealing with depression, get some help. Some of us who have lost friends in the mountains have also lost friends to that ailment. Sounds like you're taking a little break from the mountains so now would be a great time to deal with it. Since you've been to the ER and are in the "system," they can probably point you to someone. Would be a very brave thing to do.
Thanks for the kind thoughts Susan. We all have our demons to overcome, I hope I can do that sooner than later. I also smoke way too much and drink more than I should.

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CaptCO wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:18 am We all have our demons to overcome, I hope I can do that sooner than later. I also smoke way too much and drink more than I should.
I think you can beat all that. You just might need some help. I drank to blacking out pretty much every night for 14 years and smoked for 35 years - as much as two packs a day for a lot of years. No depression (yet). I'm probably the slowest hiker in Colorado, and I don't ski or snowboard at all. If someone like me can tackle those demons, you definitely can too.

Good luck, and take care of that shoulder.
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🙏 I have a monarch day pass that I’m wanting to give away to someone in the Denver area. PM me if you want a free ticket to monarch ski resort.
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Alec, sorry that you got hurt. I wish you a speedy recovery.
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Sorry about your injury, skiing has a fair amount of injury risk.

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FYI: I had been BC skiing a while when I did conundrum and it freaked me out a little skiing it alone(without another skier). Also, a good reminder that hikers, "walkers", and skiers do not mix well.
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cottonmountaineering wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:40 pm D1– Easy low angled terrain such as beginner run at ski resort.

D4 – Similar to an easier "Expert" run at a resort. Slope angles usually around 30 degrees.

D5 – Similar to an "Expert" run at a resort, steeper (35 degree range) or more terrain obstacles than previous rating.
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D12 Conundrum Couloir
I do have a much lower risk tolerance than a lot of folks, but I don't tire of emphasizing that I am a strong in-bounds skier who loves resort expert terrain and 40-50 degree slopes, but I stick firmly to blue-equivalent terrain in the backcountry. Probably max out around D7, which is how bergsteigen ranks Castle's north couloir, and that ski really got my attention...I skied it, but realized I had a lot to improve to feel comfortable on that kind of backcountry terrain. (That said, she says Peak 10 4th of July bowl is D7 too, and I loved that, so maybe skiing in shorts makes me braver).

Long story short: we're all different, but the advice these folks are offering is well-intentioned with experience to back it up. They're not saying you can't do it, they're just offering perspective and insight, for which you did ask.

EDIT: sorry to hear about your shoulder. Once it heals, I promise D2-D4 grade backcountry turns are super fun. It's amazing what unlimited pow can do to compensate for mellower slopes.
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AnnaG22 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 12:50 pm
cottonmountaineering wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:40 pm D1– Easy low angled terrain such as beginner run at ski resort.

D4 – Similar to an easier "Expert" run at a resort. Slope angles usually around 30 degrees.

D5 – Similar to an "Expert" run at a resort, steeper (35 degree range) or more terrain obstacles than previous rating.
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D12 Conundrum Couloir
I do have a much lower risk tolerance than a lot of folks, but I don't tire of emphasizing that I am a strong in-bounds skier who loves resort expert terrain and 40-50 degree slopes, but I stick firmly to blue-equivalent terrain in the backcountry. Probably max out around D7, which is how bergsteigen ranks Castle's north couloir, and that ski really got my attention...I skied it, but realized I had a lot to improve to feel comfortable on that kind of backcountry terrain. (That said, she says Peak 10 4th of July bowl is D7 too, and I loved that, so maybe skiing in shorts makes me braver).

Long story short: we're all different, but the advice these folks are offering is well-intentioned with experience to back it up. They're not saying you can't do it, they're just offering perspective and insight, for which you did ask.
Annaliese, the snow is soooo much different. No one is out there controlling the terrain or chopping up the snow to make consistent. BC snow can be a mix of breaking crust, winter powder, corn and hard sastrugi all in the same run. unfortunetly, skiing groomers doesnt help you be a good skier "off piste". A good BC ski doesn't ski as well nor is the boot as stiff. You have to be much lighter on your skis otherwise you'll break your leg. Being a good ski mountaineer requires skill, but also a fair amount of fitness, a lot of folks don't want to do the uphill work and cross fitness to make it happen. Anyway thats a rant, unrelated to CaptCO's shoulder injury.

Edit: It occurs to me that only Lodgling actually knows that he's talking about when it comes to skiing Conundrum. Just observing...
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