Mount Lindsey Closure

[cedica]

Maybe the guy who recently fkt'd the 14ers can shed some light on how he gained access to Lindsey?

Either on foot, or in Joe's truck:
.

joe_camioneta.jpg (77.62 KiB) Viewed 2912 times

[CaptainSuburbia]

Maybe the guy who recently fkt'd the 14ers can shed some light on how he gained access to Lindsey?

Either on foot, or in Joe's truck:
.
joe_camioneta.jpg

Joe Rey?

[cedica]

Either on foot, or in Joe's truck:
.
joe_camioneta.jpg

Joe Rey?

That was intended to be tongue-in-cheek just for you: "During the filming of 'Straight to Hell', Joe Strummer made a trip to San Jose. He made the trip in a van from the movie with no license plate. Luckily Joe didn't have a driver's license either."

Truck with the same slogan also appears in the movie The Limits of Control, unfortunately without good old Joe.

[CaptainSuburbia]

Either on foot, or in Joe's truck:
.
joe_camioneta.jpg

Joe Rey?

That was intended to be tongue-in-cheek just for you: "During the filming of 'Straight to Hell', Joe Strummer made a trip to San Jose. He made the trip in a van from the movie with no license plate. Luckily Joe didn't have a driver's license either."

Truck with the same slogan also appears in the movie The Limits of Control, unfortunately without good old Joe.

Shoot missed that reference. Good post! Seems about right.
I should have replied with Bankrobber or maybe Banditos.

[mijoflynn]

I'm chiming in a little late, sorry, so I don't know if you're still considering this hike. I did Huerfano and Iron Nipple in July. I knew Lindsey was closed, but had read last year (on page 2 of this thread) that the other peaks were open, so I went ahead and climbed them without thinking too much about it. Looking at my track now, I can see that I inadvertently trespassed in two places -- but both are pretty easily avoidable.

1. I bypassed Iron Nipple's east cliffs on the way up, and climbed the peak directly on my return. The bypass (steps 15-17 on Bill's route description) is on private land, but if you go over Iron Nipple (steps 21-27) both ways, you should be fine. My track shows that I naturally (i.e. making hiking decisions, rather than consciously avoiding trespassing) stayed on the ridge crest the entire way back, and it was maybe class 2+ in a couple of places as it neared the Nipple.

2. Like Scott P said while looking at Alyson Kirk's track, the other area is around 13,600, where you can see both a false summit and the true one, and it's totally natural to go around the false one (red line). To stay off private land, you'd want to follow the ridge all the way to the false summit, and then across to the true one -- but that's just a couple of easy class 2 steps out of your way (green line).

FB_IMG_1659997174302.jpg (153.73 KiB) Viewed 2215 times

I guess, though, it all depends on how nitpicky you want to be (or how nitpicky you think the landowners will be). I agree with Jon Frolich -- there are parts of the traverse where "west of the ridge" isn't really an option (Bill's pic 21, looking toward the Nipple, is a better indication than this one). So if you take a single step east off the literal ridge crest to keep your balance or whatever, is that trespassing?

One other note that might be of interest: they had lots of blowdown in the Huerfano valley this spring or early summer. With Lindsey closed, that trail is getting less traffic than it usually does (I didn't see anyone else the entire day) . . . and less maintenance, too, it seems. So there's lots of fresh deadfall on the trail for the first couple of miles. Give yourself some extra time if you do decide to go up.

[Gulf_Coast_Hiker]

I'm chiming in a little late, sorry, so I don't know if you're still considering this hike. I did Huerfano and Iron Nipple in July. I knew Lindsey was closed, but had read last year (on page 2 of this thread) that the other peaks were open, so I went ahead and climbed them without thinking too much about it. Looking at my track now, I can see that I inadvertently trespassed in two places -- but both are pretty easily avoidable.

1. I bypassed Iron Nipple's east cliffs on the way up, and climbed the peak directly on my return. The bypass (steps 15-17 on Bill's route description) is on private land, but if you go over Iron Nipple (steps 21-27) both ways, you should be fine. My track shows that I naturally (i.e. making hiking decisions, rather than consciously avoiding trespassing) stayed on the ridge crest the entire way back, and it was maybe class 2+ in a couple of places as it neared the Nipple.

2. Like Scott P said while looking at Alyson Kirk's track, the other area is around 13,600, where you can see both a false summit and the true one, and it's totally natural to go around the false one (red line). To stay off private land, you'd want to follow the ridge all the way to the false summit, and then across to the true one -- but that's just a couple of easy class 2 steps out of your way (green line).FB_IMG_1659997174302.jpg

I guess, though, it all depends on how nitpicky you want to be (or how nitpicky you think the landowners will be). I agree with Jon Frolich -- there are parts of the traverse where "west of the ridge" isn't really an option (Bill's pic 21, looking toward the Nipple, is a better indication than this one). So if you take a single step east off the literal ridge crest to keep your balance or whatever, is that trespassing?

One other note that might be of interest: they had lots of blowdown in the Huerfano valley this spring or early summer. With Lindsey closed, that trail is getting less traffic than it usually does (I didn't see anyone else the entire day) . . . and less maintenance, too, it seems. So there's lots of fresh deadfall on the trail for the first couple of miles. Give yourself some extra time if you do decide to go up.

Hey thank you so much for the info! Really appreciate it and I'm sure others do as well. I've decide just to avoid the area next week as there are so many peaks that I've not yet climbed that it doesn't make any sense (for me) to do this route at this time.

[Shane_R]

Maybe the guy who recently fkt'd the 14ers can shed some light on how he gained access to Lindsey?

I've been wondering about this too. Maybe he'd rather not answer, though.

[Ed_Groves]

Bumpety, bump, bump. Any recent updates?

[dwoodward13]

Bumpety, bump, bump. Any recent updates?

The landowners are still insisting on legislative change to the liability of allowing recreation on private land on the books. The Colorado legislative session gets sworn in today, although I can't imagine this is anywhere near the top priority. There was no movement in the legislature on this at all last year. I've heard that CFI/CMC/etc were unable to craft any framework that was acceptable to the land owners, let alone start moving it thru the bill process.

[spoony]

We are just one day into the 2023 legislative session, so I would not get your hopes up too high, but this article suggests that at least one legislator is working on the issue: https://coloradosun.com/2023/01/11/legi ... al-access/

[Ed_Groves]

We are just one day into the 2023 legislative session, so I would not get your hopes up too high, but this article suggests that at least one legislator is working on the issue: https://coloradosun.com/2023/01/11/legi ... al-access/

Good information. Thanks. I hope they can come to an agreement to solve this issue.

[Ryan987]

So how are we new climbers suppose to complete our 14ers with this closure? Do people actually trespass or do they hike to the USFS boundary and call it done?