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Re: Pronunciation, local or 'Merican?

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:42 am
by cedica
timisimaginary wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:07 am Tour de France... in Europe they say tour de 'frahss', in Blue State America they say tour de 'frants', and in Red State America they say tour de 'freedom bikes'
Only Bob Roll pronounces it correctly, "France" should rhyme with "pants".

Re: Pronunciation, local or 'Merican?

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:00 pm
by Barnold41
shelly+ wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:35 am since 30% of the English language derives from French, i think maybe we're all locals screwing up the language. and anyway, the French like to have their week-end.
Good point.

Re: Pronunciation, local or 'Merican?

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:19 pm
by Jon Frohlich
shays_days wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:39 am Lol I don’t even pronounce my own name with the “foreign” pronunciation...(it’s obviously not Shay) let alone other words from other languages.
Neither do I. I know how to pronounce my own last name as a German would but it got Americanized in my family long before I existed. It should be Fröhlich with the umlaut. Or Froehlich. I guess it depended on which immigration official wrote it down.

When I visited Munich and someone actually used my last name with proper pronunciation it was weird.

Re: Pronunciation, local or 'Merican?

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:27 pm
by greenonion
Jon Frohlich wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:19 pm
shays_days wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:39 am Lol I don’t even pronounce my own name with the “foreign” pronunciation...(it’s obviously not Shay) let alone other words from other languages.
Neither do I. I know how to pronounce my own last name as a German would but it got Americanized in my family long before I existed. It should be Fröhlich with the umlaut. Or Froehlich. I guess it depended on which immigration official wrote it down.

When I visited Munich and someone actually used my last name with proper pronunciation it was weird.
But what is the MEANING of Frohlich? Blue Footed Booby??

Re: Pronunciation, local or 'Merican?

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:25 pm
by pvnisher
Jon Frohlich wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:19 pm
When I visited Munich and someone actually used my last name with proper pronunciation it was weird.
You mean München?
lol

Re: Pronunciation, local or 'Merican?

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:41 am
by speth
I don’t even try to pretend with couloir and glissade - Koo Lahr and Glis Aide all the way.

Re: Pronunciation, local or 'Merican?

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 11:30 am
by martintravis
speth wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 10:41 am I don’t even try to pretend with couloir and glissade - Koo Lahr and Glis Aide all the way.
"Koo-Lahr" kind of bothers me. I just pronounce it the same way you'd say the second syllable of "memoir".

Re: Pronunciation, local or 'Merican?

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:02 pm
by Jon Frohlich
pvnisher wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:25 pm
Jon Frohlich wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 12:19 pm
When I visited Munich and someone actually used my last name with proper pronunciation it was weird.
You mean München?
lol
Touche.

Re: Pronunciation, local or 'Merican?

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:15 pm
by disentangled
just came across one that is brilliantly silly.

Murican: glay shur
Brit: glah see er

just French enough to be proper and just Brit enough to middle finger the French.

Re: Pronunciation, local or 'Merican?

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:53 pm
by greenonion
shelly+ wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:15 pm just came across one that is brilliantly silly.

Murican: glay shur
Brit: glah see er

just French enough to be proper and just Brit enough to middle finger the French.
Cracking up here!

Re: Pronunciation, local or 'Merican?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:46 pm
by mtree
I try to avoid sounding elite, ignorant, or silly. So I just go with:

glissade = butt sled, ski, or slide depending on intent
couloir = gully
crevasse = crack or crevice
cairn = pile o rocks

When in doubt I'll go with "That ____ looking thingy." Works every time.

Re: Pronunciation, local or 'Merican?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 10:06 pm
by greenonion
mtree wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:46 pm I try to avoid sounding elite, ignorant, or silly. So I just go with:

glissade = butt sled, ski, or slide depending on intent
couloir = gully
crevasse = crack or crevice
cairn = pile o rocks

When in doubt I'll go with "That ____ looking thingy." Works every time.
I hate lol, but lol!! You win! I’m on board with these definitions.