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Re: RMNP 2021 Reservation System
Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:55 pm
by jakethesnake_630
Jorts wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:18 pm
Will this impact accessing Longs TH?
Yes, unfortunately. Although last summer no one ever asked to see mine while there multiple times & I don't think I always placed it on my windshield.
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Re: RMNP 2021 Reservation System
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:21 am
by ccerling
jakethesnake_630 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:55 pm
Jorts wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:18 pm
Will this impact accessing Longs TH?
Yes, unfortunately. Although last summer no one ever asked to see mine while there multiple times & I don't think I always placed it on my windshield.
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Not sure how strict they'll be about it but if you park along the road just outside of the park and walk in instead of using the parking lot you shouldn't need an entrance pass. According to recreation.gov you only need an entrance pass if you're driving into the park.
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Plus if you show up past 2:30am or so on a weekend you probably won't get a spot in the lot anyways.
Re: RMNP 2021 Reservation System
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:12 am
by justiner
Not as much on street parking as in year’s past. I wouldn’t expect to drive up and always find a spot.
Re: RMNP 2021 Reservation System
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:19 pm
by Matt Lemke
XterraRob wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:07 pm
Everything should require a permit, bottleneck access and force people to move to Idaho with FireOnTheMountain.
Boise is becoming a major city faster than anyone has imagined.
Re: RMNP 2021 Reservation System
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:00 pm
by pw
Much as I don't like to see this, it does seem preferable to just letting so many people into the park that it becomes an unpleasant experience. Seems to be a trend doesn't it - Ice Lake Basin possibly this summer too. I think Arches NP has been closing the park at a certain cutoff point on the busiest days for a couple of years.
Re: RMNP 2021 Reservation System
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:03 pm
by Dave B
Matt Lemke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:19 pm
XterraRob wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:07 pm
Everything should require a permit, bottleneck access and force people to move to Idaho with FireOnTheMountain.
Boise is becoming a major city faster than anyone has imagined.
Just got a redfin report from the house I sold in Boise in 2018 for $340k, now worth $450k. Paid $270k for it in 2016. F*ckin' hell...
Re: RMNP 2021 Reservation System
Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:37 pm
by peter303
I wish they would split the reservations 50-50 long term / short term.
Tourists buying plane trips and hotels could vie for the long term in March.
Short term could be apportioned from 7 days ahead to same day.
This is not too complicated for modern computer apps.
Furthermore I would reserve 50% of each type of each reservation for Colorado residents.
(Colorado has recently created an online state id to manage its horrible unemployment fraud mess. This could be used for all state permits like hunting, hiking etc.)
Re: RMNP 2021 Reservation System
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:07 am
by prairiechicken
peter303 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:37 pm
I wish they would split the reservations 50-50 long term / short term.
Tourists buying plane trips and hotels could vie for the long term in March.
Short term could be apportioned from 7 days ahead to same day.
This is not too complicated for modern computer apps.
Furthermore I would reserve 50% of each type of each reservation for Colorado residents.
(Colorado has recently created an online state id to manage its horrible unemployment fraud mess. This could be used for all state permits like hunting, hiking etc.)
25% of the permits will become available at 5 pm the night before, but they go quick.
Re: RMNP 2021 Reservation System
Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 3:46 pm
by martinleroux
ccerling wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:21 am
jakethesnake_630 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:55 pm
Jorts wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:18 pm
Will this impact accessing Longs TH?
Yes, unfortunately. Although last summer no one ever asked to see mine while there multiple times & I don't think I always placed it on my windshield.
Not sure how strict they'll be about it but if you park along the road just outside of the park and walk in instead of using the parking lot you shouldn't need an entrance pass. According to recreation.gov you only need an entrance pass if you're driving into the park.
Plus if you show up past 2:30am or so on a weekend you probably won't get a spot in the lot anyways.
Seems like RMNP is still trying to figure out the details. From
https://www.nps.gov/romo/planyourvisit/ ... system.htm:
Q. Do I have to get a permit if I'm walking or hiking into the park?
A. A timed entry permit is required to enter ALL areas of Rocky Mountain National Park, during the times listed above, when arriving by vehicle whether a visitor parks within the park or outside the park boundary.
But there's a loophole:
Q. Do bicycles have to get permits?
A. At this time, if you are entering the park via bicycle you will not need a timed entry reservation.
So if for some reason you want to start up Long's Peak after 9 am but you don't have a permit, just load a bicycle onto your vehicle, park outside the park boundary below the last hairpin bend, and ride your bicycle the last couple hundred yards to the trailhead.
Re: RMNP 2021 Reservation System
Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 3:56 pm
by justiner
This shall be known as the Long Ranger Loophole. Bike lockup is by the pit toilets!
Re: RMNP 2021 Reservation System
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:04 pm
by DavidK
CaptainSuburbia wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:11 pm
prairiechicken wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 1:03 pm
CaptainSuburbia wrote: ↑Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:46 pm
Can you still get in early without reservation and pass?
For Bear Lake corridor you have to get in before 5 am, for the rest of the park it's 9 am.
Thanks!
Can anyone confirm whether this is accurate - do you really not need a timed entry permit if you get to the park before these times for these different areas of the park? The park's website says to print and display your timed entry permit on your dashboard. Just curious if they actually check dashboards for permits, or do they generally look the other way in the case of early arrivals? Thanks for any thoughts on this.
Re: RMNP 2021 Reservation System
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 6:40 pm
by Cygnus X1
Prairiechicken is correct. The permit is to enter, not park per se. Nothing to display if you enter before those times. A month ago we entered before 5 to climb Chiefs Head. Parked at Glacier Gorge without incident.