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Re: The snow is getting deeper!

Post by d_baker » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:01 pm

bmcqueen wrote:
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d_baker wrote:
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Re: The snow is getting deeper!

Post by Dave B » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:31 pm

Jorts wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:40 pm
d_baker wrote:
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Jorts wrote:
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What does DPL stand for?
Deep persistent layer (instead of slab)?
Depth hoar?

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Yeah, deep persistent layer.

Sure, sometimes it can be depth hoar. Sometimes it's buried surface hoar, graupel, or rain crust. Anything that causes a week interface in the snow pack between a slab and a bed surface and is buried and difficult to trigger. Slab sandwich and all...
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Re: The snow is getting deeper!

Post by CaptCO » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:18 am

It's been waist deep powder at the resorts in treeline.. only good thing for 2021 so far
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Re: The snow is getting deeper!

Post by Jorts » Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:23 am

Dave B wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:31 pm
Yeah, deep persistent layer.

Sure, sometimes it can be depth hoar. Sometimes it's buried surface hoar, graupel, or rain crust. Anything that causes a week interface in the snow pack between a slab and a bed surface and is buried and difficult to trigger. Slab sandwich and all...
Thanks. I'd just never seen that abbreviation before.
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Re: The snow is getting deeper!

Post by CaptainSuburbia » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:29 am

Looking much better!
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Post by JTOlson26 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 11:58 am

Fantastic!

And it looks like the system at the end of this week will mainly target the southern part of the state so that will hopefully bolster their numbers.
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Re: The snow is getting deeper!

Post by Chicago Transplant » Wed Mar 24, 2021 12:29 pm

Its certainly good to see the numbers improving, but also keep in mind we are like 2-1/2 weeks away from normal peak. Many of these areas that are behind are going to need at least 200% of their average the next 2-1/2 weeks to get to 100% by April 10. Its always harder to catch up the closer you get to the end of the season. I'll take being in the 90% range though given how this season was playing out.
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Re: The snow is getting deeper!

Post by CaptCO » Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:36 pm

How common are out of bounds slides on hike to terrain in resorts? Tragedy from 3/22 at Beaver Creek

“ A skier has died in Colorado after being caught and killed by an avalanche that took place in sidecountry terrain near Beaver Creek Ski Area.

According to the Colorado Avalanche Information Center, at about 3 PM on March 22, the skier was in an area known as 'Sanctuary Chute' when they triggered an avalanche. The slide took place below treeline in what is described as a "steep northwest-facing chute at an elevation of around 10,500 feet." This is located near Lime Creek, found south of Edwards, Colorado.”

I was at Monarch that day, and the air temp really warmed up after noon or so. I stayed in bounds after that point..
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Re: The snow is getting deeper!

Post by Bean » Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:44 pm

CaptCO wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:36 pm
How common are out of bounds slides on hike to terrain in resorts? Tragedy from 3/22 at Beaver Creek
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We also had the East Vail fatality this season and UT has had 2 sidecountry fatalities. If I'm not missing any that's 4/35 nationally this year.
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Re: The snow is getting deeper!

Post by Chicago Transplant » Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:48 pm

Bean wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:44 pm
CaptCO wrote:
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How common are out of bounds slides on hike to terrain in resorts? Tragedy from 3/22 at Beaver Creek

We also had the East Vail fatality this season and UT has had 2 sidecountry fatalities. If I'm not missing any that's 4/35 nationally this year.
There was another buried and rescued in East Vail, and someone was buried and killed on Mt Trelease, which is next to Loveland Ski Area. Not sure if they accessed through the ski area or via Dry Gulch.
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Re: The snow is getting deeper!

Post by CaptCO » Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:46 pm

RIP Garry Allen Smith

“ Few skiers had more experience in the backcountry than Gary Smith.

The Eagle County mountaineer had skied Denali, explored some of Colorado’s most remote peaks and shepherded countless skiers into the backcountry with his in-depth gear reviews for Wildsnow.com and work at Cripple Creek Backcountry shop in Vail.

On Monday, the 37-year-old mountaineer died in an avalanche beyond the boundary of Beaver Creek ski area. He was the 12th person killed in an avalanche this season in Colorado, tying a grim high-mark set in 1992-93.

Smith and a partner were skiing in an area known as Sanctuary Chute, a steep northwest-facing slope below treeline. Skiers often access the backcountry zone by leaving Beaver Creek from the top of the Larkspur Express chairlift.

A report from the Eagle County Sheriff’s Office said his partner was able to locate and extricate Smith from the avalanche. Beaver Creek ski patrol and Vail Mountain Rescue group worked into the night Monday to recover Smith, who was a former ski patroller.

“He was one of the greats,” said a longtime friend who worked summers with Smith on a timber-clearing crew.

Smith is the fifth Eagle County local to die in an avalanche this season. Last month, three Eagle residents were killed in a slide near Ophir Pass outside Silverton and a Vail man was killed in an avalanche in East Vail, outside the Vail ski area boundary.”


Smith spent three years as the manager of Cripple Creek Backcountry’s shop in Lionshead and recently transitioned to an editor position at Wildsnow, where he penned trip reports and gear reviews. He was well respected as one of the most experienced backcountry skiers in the valley, with many years spent exploring the region’s most remote peaks. He also skied major lines on Alaska’s Denali in 2019 and volcanoes all over South America in 2018.

It rained almost every day on that trip to Chile and Patagonia, said Doug Stenclik, co-owner of Cripple Creek Backcountry and Wildsnow.

“He pushed us out every day. He was not going to waste a single moment in Patagonia feeling sorry for himself about the rain,” Stenclik said.

Stenclik said it’s impossible to count the number of people Smith introduced to uphill skiing.

“I don’t know if anyone in the valley pushed harder than him, but he was so happy in the trenches getting new people out on skis for their first time and he’d do it with such humility, you’d never guess he was this amazing skier,” Stenclik said. “He’d go from the biggest lines on Denali to skiing up a groomed run at Lionshead with a bunch of first-timers with the same excitement.”
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Re: The snow is getting deeper!

Post by curt86iroc » Thu Mar 25, 2021 12:38 pm

Chicago Transplant wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 3:48 pm


There was another buried and rescued in East Vail, and someone was buried and killed on Mt Trelease, which is next to Loveland Ski Area. Not sure if they accessed through the ski area or via Dry Gulch.
the trelease victim entered from dry gulch
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