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This person is probably already back, or at least reading the forums. Someone could get their screen name banned and merely create a new one from a new email address. As long as they aren't continually sending messages to the site moderator, or behaving in ways that blatantly violate basic decency or the terms-of-service of service of the website, the secondary account would be left alone.

Monster5 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:44 am Tallgrass and Deuces were puppet accounts controlled by the same person. It was hilarious.

My favorite thing about the TG persona was that he was the sort to argue with Ueli Steck about the best way to climb the Eiger North Face using a selection of published magazine quotes from Ueli himself.

That persona gave as much as he got. No need to martyr him.

I don't know anything much about Deuces Wild. I can tell you that TallGrass is a real person. Like others have said here, he is very enthusiastic about climbing, and would debate you for a long time on a topic. Having met him twice and talked at length both times, my suspicion is that he is on the autistic spectrum. That is not an accusation nor it is an excuse for anything, but like me I think he sometimes misreads emotions of others. He can also be blunt, like the time he told me that he didn't really see anything to be gained by going on a hike with me. At the same time he brought me an ice ax and was going to loan it to me even though I barely knew him.

Say what you want, but if your name isn't Alex Honnold or Gerry Roach, you have to respect his skill set. The guy climbed Sunlight Spire and put a bolt in at the top with a HAND DRILL. If you ever try to drill a hole in solid rock with one of those at 14000' while either hanging from a 5.10d or leaning over the edge of a 60-70' vertical pitch, let me know how it goes.

Sean Nunn

rijaca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:23 am

Monster5 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:18 am The thing about puppet accounts is nobody ever wants to take credit for said puppet accounts. Nice try, Rijaca. I know who controlled TG's strings.

Sorry, Monster. I know (as friends I communicate with regularly) the three peeps that posted as Deuces Wild, and they aren't TG. And it appears that TG is for real.

Marsters is trolling you.

Ptglhs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:19 am This person is probably already back,

He has been back, at least once. He was posting, or at least, pming (as usual) as PlayGneiss. I think that account was deleted as well but didn't look for sure.

I had a couple pms from other members telling me that he was bombing their mailboxes.

highpilgrim wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:32 am

Ptglhs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:19 am This person is probably already back,

He has been back, at least once. He was posting, or at least, pming (as usual) as PlayGneiss. I think that account was deleted as well but didn't look for sure.

I had a couple pms from other members telling me that he was bombing their mailboxes.

Exactly. I posted the following earlier this AM indicating the same:

OldTrad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:27 am Tall Grass is alive and well on this site and sends PMs out under the handle “PlayGneiss”. He has PM’ed me many times - same as his old MO. I realized it was him after he sent me some elaborate messages and photos of the Hourglass anchors, and then not long afterwards someone posted a Little Bear TR describing a LB ascent with TG where TG did a bunch of cleanup/replacement work on the anchor.

Welcome back TG!

OldTrad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:40 am Exactly. I posted the following earlier this AM indicating the same:

Sorry I missed that.

Ahem, cough, A0 in his case, not 5.10d, ahem

nunns wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:21 am ...you have to respect his skill set. The guy climbed Sunlight Spire and put a bolt in at the top with a HAND DRILL. If you ever try to drill a hole in solid rock with one of those at 14000' while either hanging from a 5.10d or leaning over the edge of a 60-70' vertical pitch...

I never met TG but like Sean Nunn said I always got the vibe that he was maybe autistic to some extent and felt like it was kind of gross the way he was treated here sometimes even though he could certainly be abrasive and stubborn more often than not.

highpilgrim wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:32 am He has been back, at least once. He was posting, or at least, pming (as usual) as PlayGneiss.

I believe you guys are wrong about that account. I could be mistaken of course, but word "Gneiss" is not often seen. And don't just stay on the first page of Google results, khm...

Are you guys saying TG can solo El cap?

OldTrad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:40 am

highpilgrim wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:32 am

Ptglhs wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:19 am This person is probably already back,

He has been back, at least once. He was posting, or at least, pming (as usual) as PlayGneiss. I think that account was deleted as well but didn't look for sure.

I had a couple pms from other members telling me that he was bombing their mailboxes.

Exactly. I posted the following earlier this AM indicating the same:

OldTrad wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:27 am Tall Grass is alive and well on this site and sends PMs out under the handle “PlayGneiss”. He has PM’ed me many times - same as his old MO. I realized it was him after he sent me some elaborate messages and photos of the Hourglass anchors, and then not long afterwards someone posted a Little Bear TR describing a LB ascent with TG where TG did a bunch of cleanup/replacement work on the anchor.

Welcome back TG!

cedica wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:26 pm

highpilgrim wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:32 am He has been back, at least once. He was posting, or at least, pming (as usual) as PlayGneiss.

I believe you guys are wrong about that account. I could be mistaken of course, but word "Gneiss" is not often seen. And don't just stay on the first page of Google results, khm...

I still have some stuff from him in my InBox: