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Re: Missing Zion hiker found after 2 weeks

Post by cottonmountaineering » Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:34 pm

hope the hiker gets the mental help she needs
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Re: Missing Zion hiker found after 2 weeks

Post by painless4u2 » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:13 pm

cottonmountaineering wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:34 pm
hope the hiker gets the mental help she needs
She checked herself in to a mental facility.
mountainrev wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:13 pm
Note the picture of the tree branch and the rows of hash marks made with a Sharpie where she kept track of the days. She did an excellent job of keeping her rows neat and even, despite not having anything to drink for two weeks and suffering from a concussion. I'm impressed.
I always carry a Sharpie as one of my 10 essentials. Doesn't everyone? Sounds a bit too planned.
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Re: Missing Zion hiker found after 2 weeks

Post by mtree » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:15 pm

Mtnman200 wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:18 pm
Ptglhs wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:05 pm
mountainrev wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:43 pm
Her sister has spoken out to "try to clear up discrepancies." She now says that she didn't drink anything at all during the entire 12+ days, and that she was able to walk out under her own power because of an adrenaline rush. Keep digging!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/zion-hiker-h ... ies-rescue
2 weeks without water? Yeah... I'm calling BS on that one.
Exactly. Three days is about as long as someone can survive without water.
C'mon! Under ideal conditions a person could survive a week, maybe more, without water. So figuring she was holed up in a hotel room with AC, shades closed, and no booze or salty snacks, she had a decent chance of surviving 12 days without water.

Too many critics and naysayers on this site. Geesh.
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Re: Missing Zion hiker found after 2 weeks

Post by bergsteigen » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:33 pm

mtree wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:15 pm
Mtnman200 wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:18 pm
Ptglhs wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:05 pm


2 weeks without water? Yeah... I'm calling BS on that one.
Exactly. Three days is about as long as someone can survive without water.
C'mon! Under ideal conditions a person could survive a week, maybe more, without water. So figuring she was holed up in a hotel room with AC, shades closed, and no booze or salty snacks, she had a decent chance of surviving 12 days without water.

Too many critics and naysayers on this site. Geesh.
Are you taking into account the 127 hours, drink your own pee scenario?
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Re: Missing Zion hiker found after 2 weeks

Post by mtree » Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:36 pm

bergsteigen wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:33 pm
mtree wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:15 pm
Mtnman200 wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:18 pm

Exactly. Three days is about as long as someone can survive without water.
C'mon! Under ideal conditions a person could survive a week, maybe more, without water. So figuring she was holed up in a hotel room with AC, shades closed, and no booze or salty snacks, she had a decent chance of surviving 12 days without water.

Too many critics and naysayers on this site. Geesh.
Are you taking into account the 127 hours, drink your own pee scenario?
Dang! I didn't consider that.
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Re: Missing Zion hiker found after 2 weeks

Post by Trotter » Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:36 pm

The family is really digging hard to explain the discrepancies. They obviously are trying to get out of paying for rescue and/or paying back the Gofundme and/or waiting for the 127 hours movie deal.

So shes so weak she can't open her mouth to talk to a hiker who found her, but then can walk out of the park unassisted because of adrenaline.

She makes accurate marks on a tree for every day, but is so concussed she can't hike a couple hundred yards to a trail.

And she survived because she drank the water at the river. Oh wait, the sheriff just announced that water would kill her? Then she didn't drink water. For 12 days. :^o
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Re: Missing Zion hiker found after 2 weeks

Post by pvnisher » Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:08 am

The first rule of Crime Club is don't talk about Crime Club.
This goes for people planning disappearances as well as the numbnuts who post videos of their crimes on instagram.

Although maybe it's good that they do. Makes the sleuthing easier.

I remember talking to a law enforcement officer I was training with years back and he said that most criminals aren't criminal masterminds. That most people probably don't want to be criminals but given (circumstance, opportunity, inclination) it happens.

Very few crimes are unsolvable. It's just a lack of investigative resources and prosecutor discretion.
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Re: Missing Zion hiker found after 2 weeks

Post by Candace66 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:09 pm

Mtnman200 wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:18 pm
Ptglhs wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:05 pm
mountainrev wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:43 pm
Her sister has spoken out to "try to clear up discrepancies." She now says that she didn't drink anything at all during the entire 12+ days, and that she was able to walk out under her own power because of an adrenaline rush. Keep digging!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/zion-hiker-h ... ies-rescue
2 weeks without water? Yeah... I'm calling BS on that one.
Exactly. Three days is about as long as someone can survive without water.
Survival time can vary depending on ambient conditions and other factors. But I'm comfortable saying 12 days without any fluid intake is not possible. That claim should be enough to tell anyone this story is BS.
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Re: Missing Zion hiker found after 2 weeks

Post by CaptCO » Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:11 pm

Agreed Candace, after a big hiking day and 8+ hours without fluids I feel like a different type of creature haha
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Re: Missing Zion hiker found after 2 weeks

Post by EZsummits » Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:37 pm

I was hoping for an unlikely but maybe plausible story like "I've been doing Wim Hof breathing and ice baths for a year and that training helped me to slow my body's metabolism and water loss so I could survive for so long without water." :-D

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Re: Missing Zion hiker found after 2 weeks

Post by DArcyS » Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:01 pm

This is bringing back memories of a fellow who went for a winter hike up Mt. Bierstadt from Guanella Pass in conditions with low visibility and a impending storm, descended the wrong ridge to end up in the basin to the east of the Bierstadt, and spent at least two wintry nights in the backcountry. In the news it was reported that he didn't tell people where he was going, but it also came out that after the weather broke he could see where he was. Eventually a rescue helicopter spotted him and extracted him from the backcountry. The local news stations showed him getting off the helicopter wearing a down suit and he waived with a smile to the cameras. He also offered advice in a news conference that if you're lost, stay put and let the rescuers come and find you. Got all that? This was a short time after the Ralston affair, and when I "added it all up," it seemed like this guy was staging his own "getting lost" plan. You don't tell people where you're going, but your advice is to remain stationary until rescuers find you? Sure, makes sense. And you're not willing to reclimb the peak under sunny skies that you were willing to climb under threatening weather conditions?

When people get lost, I always question whether a motive exists to gain a little Ralston-esque fame. Doubt if I'm alone.
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Re: Missing Zion hiker found after 2 weeks

Post by douglas » Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:23 pm

Another thing (amongst all other parts of this story) that doesn’t make sense is the “concussion”. To get a concussion by hitting your head on a tree you would have to be going really fast and hit your head on the trunk or an immovable branch. Unless she was sprinting and ran headfirst into the tree trunk I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t get a severe head injury, especially by walking and bonking her head on a branch. Unless of course she took a tumble down a hill, smashed her head into a tree, and doesn’t remember anything. Yeah, that’s most likely what happened.
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