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Re: Most Overhyped Sections of Peaks?

Post by Trotter » Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:22 pm

goingup wrote: It's important that the "over hyped" sections stay that way. It saves lives and keeps a natural progression to climbing them, start easy, build a skill set, become a more sure footed climber etc.

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Re: Most Overhyped Sections of Peaks?

Post by RonfarZ3 » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:00 am

Also back on topic, there are a few sections which receive a lot of "hype" that I felt could be easily avoided:
- The Class 4 chimney on N. Maroon can be bypassed by a Class 3 section to the side.
- The Class 2 gully on Lindsey can be bypassed by the Class 3 route up the ridge.
- The Class 4 move on Mount Wilson can be bypassed by hiking from Kilpacker.
- The "2,800 ft. of suck" on Maroon can be mostly bypassed by a route that's just to the left of it (although finding that same route on the way down is a different issue).

Still, I will agree with some assessments of overhyped sections:
- The catwalk on Eolus.
- The knife-edge on Capitol (I'll even include getting to the top of K2 in this).
- Kit Carson Avenue (getting back down from Challenger was way more irritating).
- The hourglass on Little Bear (granted, this is with no other hikers to knock rocks on, or vice versa).
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Re: Most Overhyped Sections of Peaks?

Post by Hungry Jack » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:29 pm

Surprised no one has mentioned the ledges on Sherman
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Re: Most Overhyped Sections of Peaks?

Post by Jim Davies » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:31 pm

Hungry Jack wrote:Surprised no one has mentioned the ledges on Sherman
Those belong in the "underhyped" thread.
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Re: Most Overhyped Sections of Peaks?

Post by akoller » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:20 am

annamigl wrote:I was completely hyped up for the narrows section up Longs... almost as much of a let down as the knife edge!
I agree, the narrows is a cool place but you literally just walk across. Even when covered with (stable) snow it was not a big deal. Each time I've been up the loft or keyhole the homestretch was the sketchiest part -- dare I say it is underhyped.
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Re: Most Overhyped Sections of Peaks?

Post by AyeYo » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:28 am

goingup wrote:^^^

I am not so sure what kind of "community dialogue" this thread has created. But I don't think that people let Kit Carson Ave. deter them from climbing the mtn. Most of the accidents on KC happen because people miss the exit on the way down, not actually on the avenue, I thought that was common knowledge.

Most people use this website to aid in navigation of the 14ers, there is even an app and a downloadable version of all the standard and even some non standard routes. Those routes were carefully put together and bring extra attention to sections that need extra attention. I mean Capitol's Knife has huge exposure on both sides, is that a fact? The over or under hyping is in the mind of the individual. People miss the exit of Kit Carson's Avenue, wander down too far, get off route and need rescue or fall, is that a fact? On Pyramid Peak you have to make a small jump across a broken ledge, is that a fact? People miss the crossover on Crestone Needle and there are consequences, is that a fact?

I suppose I over reacted, this is not the first time I have seen threads along this line, it is just the first time I have chose to respond. Sorry if I am out of place. Also, I am not a 14ers facebook member :-D

I think you're missing the point that threads like these, aside from the fun of making jokes, are a great way to bring the hype levels back to reality and keep the elite mountaineers in check. The elite mountaineers here and on social media tend to hype their 14er routes into K2 expeditions, which deters and scares off new people. While under-hype isn't safe either (hence my other thread), over-hype only serves to inflate egos while offering no additional safety margin.
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Re: Most Overhyped Sections of Peaks?

Post by XterraRob » Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:41 am

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Re: Most Overhyped Sections of Peaks?

Post by tobiasfunke » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:00 pm

Richard Derkase wrote:
AyeYo wrote: are a great way to bring the hype levels back to reality and keep the elite mountaineers in check. The elite mountaineers here and on social media tend to hype their 14er routes into K2 expeditions,
Yo Yo, why don't you go back and post some more anti-elitist bulls**t on the Spire thread? That worked out well for you, didn't it?

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Re: Most Overhyped Sections of Peaks?

Post by oldschool » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:28 pm

As this thread has morphed into an "elite mountaineer" diatribe, would someone please define what an elite Colorado mountaineer is and as it pertains to 14ers?
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Re: Most Overhyped Sections of Peaks?

Post by Tory Wells » Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:02 pm

oldschool wrote:As this thread has morphed into an "elite mountaineer" diatribe, would someone please define what an elite Colorado mountaineer is and as it pertains to 14ers?
Only the Great and Wise AyeYo could possibly answer that question, since apparently he is the only one who can see them.
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Re: Most Overhyped Sections of Peaks?

Post by Hungry Jack » Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:05 pm

Those posters aren't elitists. No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of.
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Re: Most Overhyped Sections of Peaks?

Post by tobiasfunke » Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:23 pm

oldschool wrote:As this thread has morphed into an "elite mountaineer" diatribe, would someone please define what an elite Colorado mountaineer is and as it pertains to 14ers?
A winter ascent of Mt Logan should count, no?
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