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First Alchemist 40L Backpack

Postby my5sons » Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:56 pm

Any opinions on Alchemist 40L Backpack? Anyone own one of these not to familiar with first ascent. Thanks for any input!

Re: First Alchemist 40L Backpack

Postby MonGoose » Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:37 pm

I have the Alchemist 30L and I absolutely love it. It's a very comfortable and well designed pack.

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Re: First Alchemist 40L Backpack

Postby my5sons » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:59 am

Thanks I sent him a message!

Re: First Alchemist 40L Backpack

Postby its_not_a_tuba » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:44 am

I would go with expensive, heavy and ugly for starters.
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Re: First Alchemist 40L Backpack

Postby pvnisher » Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:25 pm

its_not_a_tuba wrote:I would go with expensive, heavy and ugly for starters.


About seven "Your mama..." jokes just came to mind. Minus the "expensive" part.


How is your mama like an Alchemist pack? Expensive, heavy and ugly for starters.

How is your mama not like an Alchemist? No one is willing to claim First Ascent. :lol:

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Re: First Alchemist 40L Backpack

Postby my5sons » Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:21 pm

Ok easy guys, :x I'm getting the picture.......I know you just sit around waiting for the newbies :-D

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Re: First Alchemist 40L Backpack

Postby pvnisher » Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:08 pm

It seems heavy for the size. 4 lbs for 40L is too much.
If you need a 55L pack then get a 55L pack, not a 40L one that can be jury-rigged. As a 55L pack it probably wouldn't be that great or have the suspension to carry that load. But I don't have first-hand knowledge of it.

Take a look at the Mammut Trion Light. It's 40L, completely waterproof, roll-top closure with ski attachment, ax attach, etc. And weighs about 2.25 pounds. If you take off the lid (still waterproof with roll-top!), the waterproof liner, and the hipbelt for a summit attempt you get it down to about 1.5 pounds.

It's a little more money retail ($229), maybe you can find one on sale. It's my go-to pack for almost everything.

http://www.mammut.ch/en/productDetail/251002210_v_0300_28/Trion-Light.html

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Re: First Alchemist 40L Backpack

Postby SurfNTurf » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:54 pm

I've never used the Alchemist 40, mostly because it seems excessively overbuilt. Waaaay too much going on. That probably has something to do with it being so heavy.

The Alchemist 30, on the other hand, is well on its way to becoming my favorite pack. Whereas everything on the Alchemist 40 is complicated and frustrating, everything on the 30L is simple and streamlined. It's my go-to winter daypack, ice climbing pack and (soon) spring couloir pack. I find myself reaching for it even when one of my other packs might be more suitable on a given day.
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Re: First Alchemist 40L Backpack

Postby forbins_mtn » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:47 am

Jeff - have you tried the Bacon Pack? That's the one that has my eye but I haven't seen it in person yet. I was pretty intrigued by the Alchemist when it first got announced but it just didn't do it for me when I saw it in the stores.

http://www.eddiebauer.com/catalog/produ ... hInfo=null

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Re: First Alchemist 40L Backpack

Postby SurfNTurf » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:35 am

forbins_mtn wrote:Jeff - have you tried the Bacon Pack? That's the one that has my eye but I haven't seen it in person yet. I was pretty intrigued by the Alchemist when it first got announced but it just didn't do it for me when I saw it in the stores.

http://www.eddiebauer.com/catalog/produ ... hInfo=null


I've played with it. It zips into itself and packs down to almost nothing, which is pretty cool. It's light and simple at the same time as having all the key features. That said, specifically for summer 14ers, in my opinion 28L is big for a "summit pack." If you wanted to use it as a traditional daypack it would probably handle that role well.

Plus, it has the best name for a pack ever.
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Re: First Alchemist 40L Backpack

Postby IkeB » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:29 am

I have been eyeing the bacon pack as well. Where is the 1sfirst ascent outlet?

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Re: First Alchemist 40L Backpack

Postby dsunwall » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:38 am

IkeB wrote:I have been eyeing the bacon pack as well. Where is the 1sfirst ascent outlet?


there is one at Park Meadows Mall. at least there was a year ago.

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