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Re: Is this too many backpacks?

Postby shredthegnar10 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:46 pm

It only becomes "too many" when you have two packs that do essentially the same thing and find yourself choosing which one to take on a given day based on how well it matches your clothes :P

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Osprey Luna 85: For extended backpacking trips
Osprey Exposure 66: For weekend mountaineering trips and mountaineering expeditions
Osprey Variant 37: For winter day trips
Mammut Nirvana 35: For backcountry snowboarding (it has a strap system designed specifically to carry a snowboard)
Camelbak (about 20L): For summer day hikes
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Re: Is this too many backpacks?

Postby Papillon » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:15 pm

ezabielski wrote:Seems like you only own the Burn?

The bombproof mountaineering Mercury 65 honestly seems like overkill for most situations. What about this backpack are you really going to need? It's so heavy -- 4lbs 11oz! You can get an Osprey Exos 58 (2lbs 8oz - Medium), save 2 lbs 3 oz (!) and like $60 or something.

To answer your question, if you use your packs, you can't have too many. My "arsenal":
Osprey Exos 46
Osprey Stratos 26
REI Flash 18 (original)
REI Flash 62
Kelty Lakota 65 (need to give away).


Listen to this man. The Exos 46 is the s**t. I did an eight night trip with it in the weminuche last summer. Just picked up the Exos 58 for winter overnights despite the guy at REI almost physically preventing me from buying it when I told him my purpose. Now all I need is a new summer/fall day pack and my lineup is streamlined.

I used to carry in a summit day pack but have since seen the light. If you dial in your gear, you can dial in your pack.

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Re: Is this too many backpacks?

Postby SurfNTurf » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:22 pm

To address the OP's question specifically, I'd suggest skipping the 11L and the Verto 26L and just getting the aforementioned REI Flash 18. The Flash 18 is a bargain, and I'd wager it's what a majority of people use for overnight 14er summit days. It's also great for light dayhikes. Here's my quiver, with thoughts on the usefulness of each:

REI Flash 18: Summit pack, light daypack, gym bag. All for $30. Just buy it.
Osprey Stratos 24: Late spring and summer 14er dayhikes.
First Ascent Alchemist 30: Light winter daypack, spring couloirs, technical climbing.
Millet Odyssee 45: Standard winter daypack, summer overnights.
Osprey Aether 60: Multi-day summer overnights, winter overnights, expeditions.

My only complaint is I wish the Alchemist was 35L, then it could be my sole winter daypack and relegate the Odyssee to summer overnights. It's just baaaaarely too small for all the winter necessities. An extra 5L would be a huge help once a harness, rope and pro get involved, as well. Of course, a few months after I pulled the trigger on the Alchemist, First Ascent is launching a very similar new pack that comes in 35L, 40L and 45L varieties. %^&*.
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Re: Is this too many backpacks?

Postby lordhelmut » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:46 pm

Liquid Shadow - Another question for you is are you an ultra-lighter or are you like 14er member Floyd and carry the kitchen sink? If the former - go with ezabielski and papillon's suggestions as there probably aren't much better options in that category than what they described. If weight isn't an issue, or you are more concerned with durability, I'd suggest giving Deuter a shot. Their packs are heavy, but they last forever. On Rainier, since you asked, I've used the Deuter Guide 45+, which is nice cause it can expand at the head to accomodate more gear, but also pack down when needed. Since you have a significant gap between your 28L and your 65L, this might be able to fill the void.

With regards to Osprey vs. Gregory, the latter seems to have gone a tad downhill in recent years. It pains me to say this cause I too enjoyed the Palisade for 5 years, but Osprey has taken off, more or less, through the years, and hasn't looked back.

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Re: Is this too many backpacks?

Postby Liquid Shadow » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:53 pm

Thank you guys for all the replies.

I already own the REI Flash 18, as well as a High Sierra Summit 45L. I have used both for over 2 years now.

I find the High Sierra, at 45L, is too big for my one-day 14ers, but not big enough longer summer trips or winter overnighters. I have a close friend who I go hike/climb all the time and she doesn't have backpacks, so I'm going to retire both the Flash 18 and the High Sierra to her.

The REI Flash 18 has served me well too, but for a summit pack I feel it's a little small, hence by desire for the TNF Verto 26.

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Re: Is this too many backpacks?

Postby Dancesatmoonrise » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:03 pm

Liquid Shadow wrote:Is this too many?

Kiefer wrote:No way. Too many backpacks? Inconceivable!


Concur.

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Re: Is this too many backpacks?

Postby mtnbikir » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:04 pm

Gregory Pallasade (original) for long summer..
BD L50 snow pack for overnight winter..
TNF hotshot (original.. and super faded).. backcountry ski day trips..14ers + day hikes
BCA stash ob.. new this year for riding chairs..

..and a few worn out predecessors based on functions above.. plus biking hydration pack.. probably have 8-9 around the house.. all different functions like laptops, travel, etc. keep one dedicated for my "get out of denver" bag with clothes. came in handy in my 3 day trip to the steamboat snow event last we.

I guess I have a problem also. 1/2 my garage certainly resembles the above photo.

I am playing with the idea of getting one of the larger ultralight packs.. even though i'm loaded up for 4-5 days with the gregory and only about 25lbs thanks to titanium and ultralight bag.. figured it would put me well below 20 for long summer trips.

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Re: Is this too many backpacks?

Postby Dancesatmoonrise » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:06 pm

shredthegnar10 wrote:It only becomes "too many" when you have two packs that do essentially the same thing and find yourself choosing which one to take on a given day based on how well it matches your clothes :P

Oh.


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Re: Is this too many backpacks?

Postby TallGrass » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:28 pm

Fletch wrote: (I can barely fit the 10 essentials in a 26L pack :oops: )

That's because at least six of them are aluminum, cylindrical, and say White Rascal on the side. :lol: :twisted:
Not sure if I'll do more 14ers. The trip reports are too tiring. :wink:

Re: Is this too many backpacks?

Postby FireOnTheMountain » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:40 pm

RoanMtnMan wrote:Image


Borderline pornographic indeed.

I supremely envy your organization.
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Re: Is this too many backpacks?

Postby RoanMtnMan » Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:35 pm

Tboo wrote:This is a thing of beauty! I cannot wait to convert the old shed in my yard into a gear headquarters / man cave. I love the way you have organized everything, I want my set up to be like this. Thanks for sharing the pic.


And you can only see 1.25 walls! Seriously though, a good organized gear room sure is a nice to have and efficient. It's my favorite place to crack a brew, sit in a camp chair and thumb through a book or magazine from the outdoor archives bookshelf I built.
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Re: Is this too many backpacks?

Postby lordhelmut » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:28 pm

Someone should start a "Lets see your gear closets" thread. It'd be nice to get some "re-modeling" ideas if nothing else. Impressive Roan.

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