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Wichita State Plane Crash site

Postby schumi248 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:03 pm

I dont know if this is the right forum or not, but i thought it was the closest one, but does anyone know where to find information about the trail that leads to the crash site??

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Re: Wichita State Plane Crash site

Postby jeffs » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:20 am

There's a bunch of stuff on google. This has a link to the crash site marked on google earth. There's a roadside memorial and and I believe there's a trail or maybe you bushwack your way. I thought about doing this a couple different times but haven't had the chance. Let me know if you ever go, I'd like some specifics of the hike...

http://www.super70s.com/Super70s/Tech/Aviation/Disasters/70-10-02(Martin404).asp

here's a really interesting story about a ring that was found...
http://www.standard.net/topics/sports/2009/10/22/hike-site-wichita-state-crash-affirmation-loss-and-love
Hey, it's flat up here?!

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Re: Wichita State Plane Crash site

Postby RenoBob » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:28 am

Here's one of the best reoports on the Wichita State crash. This is a great website that documents military and civilian plane wrecks in Colorado. The guy has done a lot of research and provides the crash report as well as historical background.
http://coloradowreckchasing.com/wichita404/wichita404.html
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Re: Wichita State Plane Crash site

Postby Tortoise1 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:45 pm

It's hallowed ground for many. Please respect it.

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Re: Wichita State Plane Crash site

Postby jeffs » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:03 pm

Tortoise1 wrote:It's hallowed ground for many. Please respect it.



That's a given......

I played for the surviving coach......
Hey, it's flat up here?!

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Re: Wichita State Plane Crash site

Postby ihaveagps » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:07 pm

Here is some info on a few in the Colorado Springs area. I think there are 6 around here.

http://www.geocaching.com/bookmarks/view.aspx?guid=ad1ffe5e-7d54-428b-aeff-5ea64823bc68



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Re: Wichita State Plane Crash site

Postby Tortoise1 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:10 am

jeffs wrote:
Tortoise1 wrote:It's hallowed ground for many. Please respect it.



That's a given......

I played for the surviving coach......


Maybe a surviving player who later became a coach, but no coach survived the crash.

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Re: Wichita State Plane Crash site

Postby jeffs » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:42 am

Thank for the correction? It was Bob S. Who survived by being on the other plane. Sad day reguardless.

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Re: Wichita State Plane Crash site

Postby tlongpine » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:48 pm

Tortoise1 wrote:
jeffs wrote:
Tortoise1 wrote:It's hallowed ground for many. Please respect it.



That's a given......

I played for the surviving coach......


Maybe a surviving player who later became a coach, but no coach survived the crash.


There are many ways to grieve, and apparently, being a jerk is one of them.
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Re: Wichita State Plane Crash site

Postby TallGrass » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:05 pm

Tortoise1 wrote:Maybe a surviving player who later became a coach, but no coach survived the crash.

Wrong, Tortoise1, a survivor is one who survives, which is defined as...
1: to remain alive after the death of <he is survived by his wife>
2: to continue to exist or live after <survived the earthquake>
3: to continue to function or prosper despite : withstand

Assistant coach Chuck Ramsey was not killed and the team played out the rest of that year's "second season."

Only one of the coaches was on the plane, the head coach, and is survived by his family AND team. (history)

In memory of... (the deceased) Visitation on 40th Anniversary

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Re: Wichita State Plane Crash site

Postby Tortoise1 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:25 pm

There are many ways to grieve, and apparently, being a jerk is one of them.[/quote]

Please explain. I can't even tell who the comment is directed towards.

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Re: Wichita State Plane Crash site

Postby Tortoise1 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:30 pm

TallGrass wrote:
Tortoise1 wrote:Maybe a surviving player who later became a coach, but no coach survived the crash.

Wrong, Tortoise1, a survivor is one who survives, which is defined as...
1: to remain alive after the death of <he is survived by his wife>
2: to continue to exist or live after <survived the earthquake>
3: to continue to function or prosper despite : withstand

Assistant coach Chuck Ramsey was not killed and the team played out the rest of that year's "second season."

Only one of the coaches was on the plane, the head coach, and is survived by his family AND team. (history)

In memory of... (the deceased) Visitation on 40th Anniversary

Image


By survivor I thought you meant he survived the crash. The term crash "survivor" would not normally be used to describe a non-participant.

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