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Dogs in the Hourglass??

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Re: Dogs in the Hourglass??

Postby nyker » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:55 am

tomcat67 wrote:...I cant help but think that the dog or the leash it was attached to was somehow to blame. I love dogs more than most and we bring our dog on a lot of outings but this was just plain stupid imho. . T


First off, glad you're safe.

To your point above, I don't think the dog had too much to say in whether it wanted to climb up the hourglass or not...

Bummer you had to turn around, but better that than reading about you on Denver news tonight being the victim of rockfall or worse.

When I climbed Lindsey recently, there was a guy dragging a dog down that gulley.
That gulley took a few mm off the soles of my Vibram soles, who knows what it did to the poor dog's footpads.

I love dogs too and grew up with them, though I'd leave the pooch home for a good portion of
many of these peaks both for their safety and the safety of other climbers.

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Re: Dogs in the Hourglass??

Postby MtHurd » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:15 pm

I guess this dog is trying to be the second dog to climb all the 14ers. Since this dog can handle ropes, maybe Lizard Head next.

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Re: Dogs in the Hourglass??

Postby nyker » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:29 pm

tomcat, was the dog a large, dark Shepherd mix? Wonder if it was the same guys from Lindsey.

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Re: Dogs in the Hourglass??

Postby soybean56 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:34 pm

Glad to hear you made it out safely Tomcat. Sorry to hear that you had to turn around. I love my dog dearly, but there are certain places dogs shouldn't go.

Not to derail the thread, but how was the condition of the Hourglass? Did you run into verglass/ice?
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Re: Dogs in the Hourglass??

Postby mtndude3737 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:38 pm

Barry Raven wrote:So since that dog used a rope, is he now considered a "mountaineer"?

1. moun·tain·eer/ˌmountnˈi(ə)r/
Noun:

A person who takes part in mountaineering. Therefore, no.
Barry Raven wrote:Was the dog wearing a helmet?

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Barry Raven wrote:I guess this dog is trying to be the second dog to climb all the 14ers. Since this dog can handle ropes, maybe Lizard Head next.

If he does climb Lizard Head, I hope he can type, cause I want the beta so I can climb it next month.
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Re: Dogs in the Hourglass??

Postby ak47 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:57 pm

Wow! as a dog lover whose dogs have completed a combined 35 14ers and countless winter summits in indian peaks and the san juans...I am stunned! I would never consider bringing one to this group. In fact I'm heading for these peaks on monday and the first thing I did was find a dog sitter, because I obviously care about her not dying and am considerate enough to know she puts others in danger with rockfall. I guess the climbers figured they could just leave the dog on the mtn if it couldn't complete the traverse and someone would rescue it for them. What's with the amateur hour out there? Any theories?

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Re: Dogs in the Hourglass??

Postby uwe » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:00 pm

jasayrevt wrote:where's a 2 X 4 when you need it



Louis Farrakhan famously said when taking his boy to the woodshed, "...and there ain't much you can't solve with a 2X4."

So who let the dogs out? Did I say that?

Are we going to the dogs? Oops, I did it again.

Doggone it, I can't help myself.

Ok, I'll stop now.

Glad the dog and folks all good and sorry you had the troubles.

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Re: Dogs in the Hourglass??

Postby Kitten » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:03 pm

I think it is a very bad idea to take dogs on this route, and then have them kick rocks on top of that... boy glad you were ok. ](*,)
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Re: Dogs in the Hourglass??

Postby ThuChad » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:09 pm

Did they have one of these?

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Re: Dogs in the Hourglass??

Postby RosieTheSummiter » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:14 pm

Wow...all these dog issues coming up again and again... gets me thinking - if some people cared half as much about the potential for scratches, dings, leaking fluid and broken parts for a dog as they do their cars, it would be a very different environment.

Given that, considering this site has a "Trailhead Status" section to alert owners to the various hazards of the approaches to the THs and that people value that info, I'd like to propose a section a "Dog Status" or "Dog Info" section be added to each route where people can chime in on the route, the breed of dog, the level of difficulty and owner recommendations. Yes, every dog is different just like every dog and every owner and every vehicle is different. No, it will not prevent all ID-10-T's from bringing dogs where they should not go, just as a TH description doens't prevent all WRX owners from thinking they can drive on a 4WD road and avoid getting stuck. But we seem to have far fewer stuck and broken vehicles these days than we do bloodied, scared, beat-up dogs (Como being the exception, perhaps.)

We even have a "cell service" section for each mountain. Can we really not consider having at least one section on each mountain route for pooches considering we've just had people haul 60+ lb dogs downhill in their packs??
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Re: Dogs in the Hourglass??

Postby MUni Rider » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:28 pm

There is a forum section titled "Pets on Peaks". A far better place for this thread.

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Re: Dogs in the Hourglass??

Postby MtHurd » Thu Sep 20, 2012 3:05 pm

ThuChad wrote:Did they have one of these?

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Now that's a good way to get a dog and a cat to the summit.

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