Rescue on Quandary Last Sunday

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Re: SAR Professionalism Re: Rescue on Quandary Last Sunday

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TallGrass wrote:If you want to play [url=http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictio ... /semantics]semantics[/url
pucker_factor wrote:this is a climbing forum, or am i wrong in that?
Easy guys, remember, this is just to pass the time till Southern Sun happy hour. :iluvbeer:

I think the point is that we all appreciate SAR! =D>
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dswink wrote:Easy guys, remember, this is just to pass the time till Southern Sun happy hour. :iluvbeer:
Ooh, I like your thinking!
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And with that, lets have a beer.

First, welcome pucker_factor.

With the recent tragedies may I say ... please support SAR, purchase a CORSAR Card. http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/DO ... 1592090523

My plan, buy a card and get off my fat ass and climb something!
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Easy guys, remember, this is just to pass the time till Southern Sun happy hour.

I think the point is that we all appreciate SAR!









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JJJR wrote:With the recent tragedies may I say ... please support SAR, purchase a CORSAR Card. http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/DO ... 1592090523
Ahh, thanks for the reminder, finally got off my fat ass and bought one!
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Re: Rescue on Quandary Last Sunday

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pucker_factor wrote:i have been on recon patrols...
Was it ranger recon?
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Re: Rescue on Quandary Last Sunday

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I am not back to argue the "unpaid professional" term, because we use it a lot. Just look at the results for Googling "mountain rescue unpaid professional". You can see its more common of a term than you might think.

As kimism said, we may not be paid, but we function at the same level of standards as any other paid organization would.
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Re: Rescue on Quandary Last Sunday

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I think Kimism outlined a rescue fairly well. Until you've been a part of one it's hard to understand the personnel required. 17 does sound like an awful lot, but it isn't just a matter of walking up to someone and walking them out. A rescue is far more than just a hike.

Also as Kimism pointed out we are volunteer so it's not like someone decides hey let's get 17 people out for this mission. A page goes out to the whole team and hopefully enough people show up. It is extremely rare that too many people show up as there is always more that can be done.

Don't feel bad for making the comment either, most people are very surprised at the amount of resources needed to carry out such operations. This sounds like a pretty straight forward rescue too, it's when SAR has to search to find the person first that really takes a lot of resources.

As far as being a professional, sure we aren't paid money. Is money the only form of reward for a job well done? You're probably right though, there is something much different about a group of people willing to invest so much of their own time and money to do SAR and not get paid. You see it when a group such as the 17 mentioned above get home from their busy weekend and respond to a call to spend the whole night helping someone get home safely, and then they themselves get home just in time for the monday morning alarm clock to go off.
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Re: Rescue on Quandary Last Sunday

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pucker_factor wrote:..
why does it take 17 rescuers to find one dog and one idiot? :-"
Have you ever been involved in a rescue or first responder situation? Some people wonder why it is necessary that when 911 is called for several responders to come running. I can tell you its a lot more effecient and helpful when you have 10 - 20 hands on scene versus 4 - 6. Rescues and Patient care is NEVER as straight forward as you would think. Something as simple as CPR can run a lot more smoothly and efficiently with 4 - 5 people there versus just 1.
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Re: Rescue on Quandary Last Sunday

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There should really be some sort of fine for taking dogs up mountains that should not be there.
i.e.with selfish owners.
I am sure there are plenty of citizens that would enforce it.
This is disgusting that people are so selfish as to take their dogs up fourteeners
I don't care how technical or untechnical they are!
I have carried dogs off mtns with SAR and I do have a judgemental opinion about it that I am not ashamed to voice.
This is not a mistake some people make, it is inconsiderate.
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Re: Rescue on Quandary Last Sunday

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kimism72 wrote:This what books and Internet is for, to raise awareness and educate.
I can think of far better things the internet is for...

In all seriousness, I really appreciate what the dedicated individuals of the SAR teams do.
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