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Re: Let's see your black & whites!!

Postby vonmackle » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:39 pm

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Mt. Sherman and the Hilltop Mine.


Thanks, Bob. Great image.

I was just doing some experimenting with converting a moonlight photo to B&W. Takes a bit more wrestling, but there's potential.
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Re: Let's see your black & whites!!

Postby vonmackle » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:59 am

Lone Eagle Peak from Mirror Lake
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Re: Let's see your black & whites!!

Postby j babu » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:17 am

vonmackle wrote:Lone Eagle Peak from Mirror Lake
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Nice pic. I love this area.

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Re: Let's see your black & whites!!

Postby mount_quandary » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:54 pm

Vonmackle...would you mind sharing some of your camera settings with your moonlight pic? Thanks!!!

Actually I would love to see that on everyone's pictures, I have really enjoyed everyone's shots but would love to see what your setting choices were with the picture!! :-D You all have amazing photo's!!!
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Re: Let's see your black & whites!!

Postby djkest » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:57 pm

Probably not even worthy for this thread, but I like it. I have a hard time envisioning what pictures are better for black and white. The cloudcover makes for some interesting shadows.
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Re: Let's see your black & whites!!

Postby Mark Curtis » Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:59 pm

djkest wrote:Probably not even worthy for this thread, but I like it. I have a hard time envisioning what pictures are better for black and white. The cloudcover makes for some interesting shadows.

I think that's the nice thing about this Photography sub forum.....we are not snobs and everyone is encouraged to submit whatever they have. In this shot....as you alluded....I like the dark clouds and the peeks of sunshine on the forest.

Typically what makes a good candidate for black and white is strong contrast......as well as a tendency toward having somewhat of a monochromatic look even when shot in color (though certainly not imperative). In this case, with the relative colors not being central to the photo's appeal.....it makes for a good conversion. The only suggestion I would have for improvement might be to add some contrast in post processing (but also fine as is). Otherwise, the composition is nice.....having good balance both vertically and horizontally.

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Re: Let's see your black & whites!!

Postby jduncan » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:16 pm

There are some great photographers on this site. I love seeing the work of others and sharing in a common passion of the high mountains and photography.

I figured I would post a couple from my recent climb of Pyramid Peak. The first one is a panoramic from the top looking west toward the Bells, Snowmass and Capitol. The second is an typical view of the Bells from the base.

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Re: Let's see your black & whites!!

Postby vonmackle » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:12 pm

Mark Curtis wrote: I think that's the nice thing about this Photography sub forum.....we are not snobs and everyone is encouraged to submit whatever they have.


Agreed. People tend to play nice here. I enjoy seeing what everyone has to offer. Don't be afraid to share.

mount_quandary wrote:Vonmackle...would you mind sharing some of your camera settings with your moonlight pic? Thanks!!!


No problem. For that picture I used a 30 second exposure at f/4, iso1600. The moon was just past first quarter, so I would have preferred a bit more moonlight. I've been doing all of my conversions in Lightroom. One thing I'd really like to figure out with this shot is a way to bring out the brighter stars. The Big Dipper is actually hiding in that jumble of stars.
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Re: Let's see your black & whites!!

Postby djkest » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:47 pm

vonmackle wrote:
Mark Curtis wrote: I think that's the nice thing about this Photography sub forum.....we are not snobs and everyone is encouraged to submit whatever they have.


Agreed. People tend to play nice here. I enjoy seeing what everyone has to offer. Don't be afraid to share.

mount_quandary wrote:Vonmackle...would you mind sharing some of your camera settings with your moonlight pic? Thanks!!!


No problem. For that picture I used a 30 second exposure at f/4, iso1600. The moon was just past first quarter, so I would have preferred a bit more moonlight. I've been doing all of my conversions in Lightroom. One thing I'd really like to figure out with this shot is a way to bring out the brighter stars. The Big Dipper is actually hiding in that jumble of stars.


Could you try using a brush? You could either use a broader brush and paint over the big dipper, and then tweak that in LR, or just make a small dot on each star you want to highlight and tweak them.

ETA: I may try running my B&W through lightroom again and see what happens when I put a little more contrast in it. I did crank up the "clarity" which tends to reduce saturation anyway. It was kind of a smokey day, so it's not going to be super clear I'm afraid. Darn wildfires. :/
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Re: Let's see your black & whites!!

Postby vonmackle » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:07 pm

djkest wrote:
Could you try using a brush? You could either use a broader brush and paint over the big dipper, and then tweak that in LR, or just make a small dot on each star you want to highlight and tweak them.


Aha! Thanks for the brush suggestion. I already had the entire sky selected with the brush so I could control its brightness independently. Within that selection I just pulled the clarity down to -100 and that did the trick.

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Still could use some more tweaking, but it's an improvement.
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Re: Let's see your black & whites!!

Postby vonmackle » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:19 pm

djkest wrote:I may try running my B&W through lightroom again and see what happens when I put a little more contrast in it. I did crank up the "clarity" which tends to reduce saturation anyway. It was kind of a smokey day, so it's not going to be super clear I'm afraid. Darn wildfires. :/



If you haven't already, you could try selectively adding contrast using the brush tool over the hazy distant mountains and the clouds.
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Re: Let's see your black & whites!!

Postby mount_quandary » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:44 pm

Vonmackle ...Thanks I enjoy seeing what is chosen for settings ...especially for night shots...I'm just getting into that myself and was having difficulty with the tripod I had...fixed that with a much improved Tripod(my old one did not properly support my camera with the 75-300 Lens) I actually like your original I think the clarity is better there. It's really an incredible shot!! Thanks again for sharing!! I don't live in Colorado BUT cannot wait to come back next summer for now I will enjoy what all of you are doing and practice techniques to bring with me :)
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